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    Educational Fraud Continues

    by Walter E. Williams

    Earlier this month, the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress, a.k.a. The Nation’s Report Card, was released. It’s not a pretty story. Only 37 percent of 12th-graders tested proficient or better in reading, and only 25 percent did so in math. Among black students, only 17 percent tested proficient or better in reading, and just 7 percent reached at least a proficient level in math.

    The atrocious NAEP performance is only a fraction of the bad news. Nationally, our high school graduation rate is over 80 percent. That means high school diplomas, which attest that these students can read and compute at a 12th-grade level, are conferred when 63 percent are not proficient in reading and 75 percent are not proficient in math. For blacks, the news is worse. Roughly 75 percent of black students received high school diplomas attesting that they could read and compute at the 12th-grade level. However, 83 percent could not read at that level, and 93 percent could not do math at that level. It’s grossly dishonest for the education establishment and politicians to boast about unprecedented graduation rates when the high school diplomas, for the most part, do not represent academic achievement. At best, they certify attendance.

    Fraudulent high school diplomas aren’t the worst part of the fraud. Some of the greatest fraud occurs at the higher education levels — colleges and universities. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 70 percent of white high school graduates in 2016 enrolled in college, and 58 percent of black high school graduates enrolled in college. Here are my questions to you: If only 37 percent of white high school graduates test as college-ready, how come colleges are admitting 70 percent of them? And if roughly 17 percent of black high school graduates test as college-ready, how come colleges are admitting 58 percent of them?

    It’s inconceivable that college administrators are unaware that they are admitting students who are ill-prepared and cannot perform at the college level. Colleges cope with ill-prepared students in several ways. They provide remedial courses. One study suggests that more than two-thirds of community college students take at least one remedial course, as do 40 percent of four-year college students. College professors dumb down their courses so that ill-prepared students can get passing grades. Colleges also set up majors with little analytical demands so as to accommodate students with analytical deficits. Such majors often include the term “studies,” such as ethnic studies, cultural studies, gender studies and American studies. The major for the most ill-prepared students, sadly enough, is education. When students’ SAT scores are ranked by intended major, education majors place 26th on a list of 38.

    The bottom line is that colleges are admitting youngsters who have not mastered what used to be considered a ninth-grade level of proficiency in reading, writing and arithmetic. Very often, when they graduate from college, they still can’t master even a 12th-grade level of academic proficiency. The problem is worse in college sports. During a recent University of North Carolina scandal, a learning specialist hired to help athletes found that during the period from 2004 to 2012, 60 percent of the 183 members of the football and basketball teams read between fourth- and eighth-grade levels. About 10 percent read below a third-grade level. Keep in mind that all of these athletes both graduated from high school and were admitted to college.

    How necessary is college anyway? One estimate is that 1 in 3 college graduates have a job historically performed by those with a high school diploma. According to Richard Vedder, distinguished emeritus professor of economics at Ohio University and the director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity, in 2012 there were 115,000 janitors, 16,000 parking lot attendants, 83,000 bartenders and about 35,000 taxi drivers with a bachelor’s degree.

    I’m not sure about what can be done about education. But the first step toward any solution is for the American people to be aware of academic fraud at every level of education.
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    This is how you turn a country liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kioti View Post
    This is how you turn a country liberal.
    I disagree. This is how you turn an educational institution into a cash cow.
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    Education is a complete sham. They talk these 18 year old kids into going into debt that they will be paying for the rest of their lives. This debt is not going to get paid, and it could sink the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddie View Post
    I disagree. This is how you turn an educational institution into a cash cow.
    That's true, too, but one doesn't cancel out the other. Both are by products of the system.

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    I agree that public high schools are pumping kids through in order to pump up their stats. It's not the teachers or school systems' fault. They are being forced to meet standards and goals based on graduation rates and standardized test. No child left behind meant well, but just like anything, if you show me how you will measure me, I'll show you how I will perform. Teachers have been handcuffed and forced to teach to standardized test. Kids are memorizing facts at best rather than learning. Not to mention the failure of the family in our society and the fact that we are asking them to take on much of the roles that should be taken care of at home. I don't have the answer other than to increase competition. Support school vouchers and charter schools that look for innovative solutions and give parents and kids that want to learn another option. Throwing money at the same old solution isn't working.

    I don't have time today to get into a google war of stats. But the stat that the author ignored is the graduation rate for college. The first result on google said that in 2009 the 6 year graduation rate for college was 58%. So we are admitting kids to college that we know probably won't work out. But the stats show that they aren't making it through college. So almost half admitted end up with college debt and no college degree. I'm sure plenty of those that scored well on the test flunk out and others that didn't score well on the test make it. But we have to stop the lie that kids have to go to college. And most of us as parents are guilty of that pressure. But high schools have gotten away from vocation programs and tried to force all the kids into college prep. There are plenty of lucrative careers that people can go into that don't require a degree.

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    My wife teaches high school. They aren't allowed to give a kid below a 60 on anything, even if they don't turn in anything. Like, they could sleep in class every day and literally not do ANYTHING and receive a 60 at the end of they year. It's complete and utter bullshit

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    My mom is at a middle school in Greenville county and it's the same way there, nothing below a 60

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    Quote Originally Posted by BET View Post
    My mom is at a middle school in Greenville county and it's the same way there, nothing below a 60
    My son goes to Langston Charter Middle School in Greenville County

    That aint so.

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    Try Riverside middle, he may do better there

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEETDOWN View Post
    My wife teaches high school. They aren't allowed to give a kid below a 60 on anything, even if they don't turn in anything. Like, they could sleep in class every day and literally not do ANYTHING and receive a 60 at the end of they year. It's complete and utter bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by triplebeard View Post
    Showing up's gotta count for something.
    Worked for me....

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    My son gets 0's all the time at Dorman HS so that 60 stuff aint true there.
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    One of the best things that could happen to this country would be for 1/3-1/2 of the colleges and universities to shut down. Reduce the financial demand for students and tighten up the requirements to get in.

    SC is a prime example with over 100 (120?) four-year schools in the State with many/most on State aid. It's BS.
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    I worked hard in high school to develop a plan that would get me by with a 60+ while doing as little homework and as much sleeping as possible. Now they're just giving away 60s!?!?

    ETA: it's not because I was lazy, I worked 60hrs a week my senior year through a work study program, and haven't stopped since.
    Last edited by CurLee; 04-26-2018 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEETDOWN View Post
    My wife teaches high school. They aren't allowed to give a kid below a 60 on anything, even if they don't turn in anything. Like, they could sleep in class every day and literally not do ANYTHING and receive a 60 at the end of they year. It's complete and utter bullshit
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    Wife is a 5th and 6th grade teacher. They are not allowed to retain students. Not even allowed to advise it. The parents have to decided it on their own if they even show up.


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    I tutor some kids in the evenings, and know folks that are recently out of the HS system, and entering the collegate system. What shocks me is the amount of re-test and re-do's and extra credit and special projects they get. If they made a bad grade, they can just re-do the assignment until they pass. I understand the goal is to get them to learn, and if it takes them 2-3 times to truly learn, well then i'm glad they are learning. But there is no failure any more.

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    I must have been pretty stupid in high school, I failed homeroom. It used to drive my dad crazy.

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