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  1. 03-13-2018, 07:27 AM #1
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    With video as only evidence, I'd lean murder. I saw nothing in the video to warrant even taking the gun out of the desk or that the man knew it was there, much less went for it. Good prosecutor should be able to make a good case that retrieving the gun was premeditation.

    "The state medical examiner reportedly said the bullet entered Williams’ lower back and exited his upper chest, which is consistent with being shot while bending out a window." ME's report shows the man was likely on his way out the window and shot in the back, not in defense of self or others.
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    Looks like murder to me.
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    It's probably all fake
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    Murder. Hell there wasn't even a gun in view for him to go for. She royally fucked up and so did the jury!
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    Murder. And what SW said
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    REDRUM. It's almost like the DA charged her to a higher degree than could be convicted. That might have been by design due to history of the victim.
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    It is my understanding that they charge higher because a jury can always find you guilty of a lesser charge but hey can’t up the charge. If they charged you with manslaughter the jury can not find you guilty of murder. In the opposite I believe they can. I am not a lawyer and may just be wrong.
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    Guilty of murder, but didn't see anything to lead me to believe first degree murder. At least not from what I've been told first degree is. What I've been taught makes first degree is it being premeditated. I saw nothing in the video to indicate that was her intention from the beginning. I don't think it is manslaughter either, because she intentionally shot him. Maybe some of the legal gurus on hear can clarify for us.
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    Then it would be second degree murder.

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    I can't believe that GoPro footage was ever admitted into evidence. If I was that lady or her son, I would have disappeared that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wob View Post
    I can't believe that GoPro footage was ever admitted into evidence. If I was that lady or her son, I would have disappeared that.
    Certainly looked like that was the intent when he went and grabbed the camera off the wall. I bet he grabbed the camera and they found it on the hard drive or the cloud.
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    Bet if you spoke to some locals, they'd say something like, "dat boy needed killin long time ago".

    Even Jr knew it was murder.
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    String her ass up. #TweekerLivesMatter
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    Well the civil suit will be pretty cut and dry.
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    How did she not get convicted? She's also a dumb ass for not keeping her side arm on her.
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    Send a woman to do a man's job.
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    Copper thieves are always white. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportin' Woodies View Post
    Copper thieves are always white. Duh.
    do you guys remember a pretty graphic pic that was posted on here a few years back of a dude that was fried
    stealing the wiring out of a high voltage transformer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecu1984 View Post
    do you guys remember a pretty graphic pic that was posted on here a few years back of a dude that was fried
    stealing the wiring out of a high voltage transformer?
    Yep. Broken DNA strands are a helluva thing.
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