School Security

[Duck Tape]

Marsh, The beauty of this bill is it does not force the employee to carry. As a matter of fact they could have a big canister of pepper spray.

The other interesting fact is your school district can opt in or stay out. Democrat districts will probably stay out. You can lobby your school board either way,

[XHailGC]

Marsh, The beauty of this bill is it does not force the employee to carry. As a matter of fact they could have a big canister of pepper spray.

The other interesting fact is your school district can opt in or stay out. Democrat districts will probably stay out. You can lobby your school board either way,

You still have not answered my question. What stops a school from providing an armed security guard in SC currently?

[Timsmith]

8 pages of solid opinions. We have wasted our breath trying to convince educated, suit wearing, holy than tho, lawmakers with absolutely no common sense and scared to speak up and hire some protection for our kids. The state capital has security, metal detectors. What’s the difference? Put the tax payers is charge with a special option sales tax that will be voted on and if passed , they will decide how many guards, securing entrances, etc on how they want their child protected. This money will be county raised and school board will receive.


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[Duck Tape]

I am a licensed physical therapist. It is my duty to teach patients and families what they should do at home to help rehabilitate themselves. I am not teaching them to be a therapist.

Not sure what the point of this statement is. My wife is also a LPT and she is not qualified to teach anything other than what she is educated for. And I wouldn't expect her to be qualified to assess what anyone else needs training on, or the suitability of a training program she is not directly involved with. Are you selling these weekend continuing ed classes that we get countless mailings for?[/QUOTE]

The program content is controlled by the Criminal Justice Academy. They determined the length also. They train all law enforcement in SC.


Your wife can teach family and the patient how to perform exercises at home. The therapist does not have to be there during the home exercise. That does not make the family a therapist any more than the teacher is considered law enforcement. The home exercise is useful in the rehab process. A well trained eager volunteer who is motivated to not be a sheep while watching your kid get point blank assassinated is better than a cop 7 minutes away.

[Duck Tape]

You still have not answered my question. What stops a school from providing an armed security guard in SC currently?

Nothing.

Most people believe training is preferred. "Armed security" is not necessarily an officer. This bill provides a statewide method of training with voluntary participation.

[Duck Tape]

8 pages of solid opinions. We have wasted our breath trying to convince educated, suit wearing, holy than tho, lawmakers with absolutely no common sense and scared to speak up and hire some protection for our kids. The state capital has security, metal detectors. What’s the difference? Put the tax payers is charge with a special option sales tax that will be voted on and if passed , they will decide how many guards, securing entrances, etc on how they want their child protected. This money will be county raised and school board will receive. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

1239 public schools.

Chain link and razor wire surround. 300,000 per school = $371,700,000

3 to 4 guards 4000 x $50,000= 200,000,000 annually

14,000 for metal detectors

[Timsmith]

1239 public schools.

Chain link and razor wire surround. 300,000 per school = $371,700,000

3 to 4 guards 4000 x $50,000= 200,000,000 annually

14,000 for metal detectors

600million still cheaper than 2 big holes where a state operated utility threw billions in . They have those 2big holes guarded 24/7 and the tax payers pay for that through rate increases.I read in the news SanteeCooper has to pay 13 million for maintaining the failed site and 3 million for warehouses for store parts that will never be used a year. How many guards are at State capital? I bet it’s more than 4, and metal detectors probably more than 1. What are they protecting that more important than the states citizens kids.


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[Bownut]

Power plants move 1000 plus people through detectors everyday. It's not that tough.

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Makes sense, of course because they aren’t government employees either (doing the scanning and being scanned). It’s funny how much simpler things can be done when you say, clear it or find another job.

[Luvin' Labs]

600million still cheaper than 2 big holes where a state operated utility threw billions in . They have those 2big holes guarded 24/7 and the tax payers pay for that through rate increases.I read in the news SanteeCooper has to pay 13 million for maintaining the failed site and 3 million for warehouses for store parts that will never be used a year. How many guards are at State capital? I bet it’s more than 4, and metal detectors probably more than 1. What are they protecting that more important than the states citizens kids.


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Mushroom cloud needed

[Duck Tape]

What are you going to do about the 5582 school buses? How about the 100,000 bus stops?

[Palmetto Bug]

What are you going to do about the 5582 school buses? How about the 100,000 bus stops?

Easy solutions.....arm the kids. An armed society is a polite society.

[StrutnBPS]

Makes sense, of course because they aren’t government employees either (doing the scanning and being scanned). It’s funny how much simpler things can be done when you say, clear it or find another job.

I agree 100%, but we aren't talking about jobs we are talking about school kids.

[fuzzy]

If only someone trustworthy would have told us how to handle things like this.





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[Saltydog235]

435,000 unemployed Vets out there that would love to have a job.

[Bownut]

I agree 100%, but we aren't talking about jobs we are talking about school kids.

You're right, kids could do it.

[DJP]

I am not really in favor of more teachers with guns. You have to watch the pew pew video that was just posted to see why. I am in favor of security guards.
I also believe that the best way to curb more shootings is to have a punishment system that is fair, cost effective, swift, and public. I specifically mean public hanging for anyone who does a mass shooting.

[trkykilr]

I am not really in favor of more teachers with guns. You have to watch the pew pew video that was just posted to see why. I am in favor of security guards.
I also believe that the best way to curb more shootings is to have a punishment system that is fair, cost effective, swift, and public. I specifically mean public hanging for anyone who does a mass shooting.

When my wife was at an elementary school as a speech pathologist she got permission from her very liberal principal to carry her pistol.

She had a room with no windows and usually had 1 student or a small group. I told her if anything happened to lock the door, back into the far corner and point the gun at the doorway.

To think that a teacher needs to go roaming the hallway like Wyatt Earp is silly.

[FEETDOWN]

When my wife was at an elementary school as a speech pathologist she got permission from her very liberal principal to carry her pistol.

She had a room with no windows and usually had 1 student or a small group. I told her if anything happened to lock the door, back into the far corner and point the gun at the doorway.

To think that a teacher needs to go roaming the hallway like Wyatt Earp is silly.

This is my thinking as well. I’ve told my wife that if they were to pass a law allowing her to carry at school she was to do the very same thing. I don’t think any reasonable person is talking about training the average teacher to go actively engage a gunman, but rather to be able to get in a defensive position and only engage the shooter if he enters that space.


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[ecu1984]

but rather to be able to get in a defensive position and only engage the shooter if he enters that space.


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Yea, jump behind something and wait on him like turkey hunting

[scbulldog]

The idea is not to arm every teacher. It is to arm the ones that want to be armed or key people. It is supposed to be a deterrent because the school shooter does not know who is armed and who is not. As it is now, most schools have zero protection. People know they are gun free zones and that is what makes them attractive. Is this a perfect solution? No, but it an added layer of security. Can teachers be idiots that are untrustworthy with a gun? Of course they can, so can cops and plenty of people I served in the military with. But it is better than leaving kids unprotected. There is no perfect solution, and I don't understand why you guys are fighting Duck Tape on this.It is one cost effective way to help protect our kids. There is nothing we can do to completely eliminate this problem

I will repeat what was said a few days ago. You can’t even stop the teachers from having sex with a student and now you want to put a weapon in their hands to fight off bad guys. GTF out of here with that crap.