What will happen after Florida?

[Swamp Rat]

Expect a push for nationwide Gun Violence Restraining Orders. California already has them, so Pelosi etc will push it.

[wbrown609]

Not sure what all is in Ducktapes bill but I saw in one new’s article that he was against concealed carry in school. Said people don’t have active shooter training. Training or not, can’t see how a reasonable adult with a handgun couldn’t have at least slowed down the most recent shooter. That being said, here are a few suggestions for your bill. Make criminal justice academy open to educators during the summer and other long breaks. Have them go through same training as police officers. Allow that training to count as recertifcation credit hours towards their teaching certificate. They need a certain amount every five years anyway. Those that have gone through training, have them certified to open carry at school. They would have had same training as the resource officers and most resource officers are in khakis/collared shirt now anyway. Open carry would allow for a more secure holster with a full size duty gun in a decent caliber. Think this would also act as a deterrent. Think it would actually be safer than certain individuals trying to keep guns concealed in ways that aren’t practical or secure in an environment with kids. Have follow up and recertification training on a regular basis.

[JayhawkLee]

One of my son's friends is legitimately screwed in the head. He has been locked up in the loony bin 2 or 3 times and once for trying to kill himself. One time his mom called the cops because he was showing out at home and he fought three of them and gave them a run for their money. This kid looks like a typical MMA fighter minus any tats. Short blond hair blue eyed kid. He happens to be a black belt in judo and some kinda belt in karate. He has been hit with the bi-polar label along with multiple personalities by clinical doctors. Anyways he just turned 18 and comes to our house Friday and shows me the new AR15 he just bought at Cables in Augusta. SMH.

[Saltydog235]

Not sure what all is in Ducktapes bill but I saw in one new’s article that he was against concealed carry in school. Said people don’t have active shooter training. Training or not, can’t see how a reasonable adult with a handgun couldn’t have at least slowed down the most recent shooter. That being said, here are a few suggestions for your bill. Make criminal justice academy open to educators during the summer and other long breaks. Have them go through same training as police officers. Allow that training to count as recertifcation credit hours towards their teaching certificate. They need a certain amount every five years anyway. Those that have gone through training, have them certified to open carry at school. They would have had same training as the resource officers and most resource officers are in khakis/collared shirt now anyway. Open carry would allow for a more secure holster with a full size duty gun in a decent caliber. Think this would also act as a deterrent. Think it would actually be safer than certain individuals trying to keep guns concealed in ways that aren’t practical or secure in an environment with kids. Have follow up and recertification training on a regular basis.

Fuck Ducttape and the rest of the politicians. Those stupid fuck-chops are part of the reason we have these school shootings. After the first one, teachers should have been able to arm themselves. The majority of politicians don’t solve shit, they create it.

[Silentweapon338]

There is no way fro a FFL to know if a guy is a loony tune or not unless the NICS check comes back
denied or delayed.

This is why I said we need less big box store and more kitchen table FFL.

You can thank Clinton for doing that.

But lets say the neighborhood gun nut is the FFL holder. JH your neighbor wants to buy a AR15.

While liberals think FFL want a gun in every hand FFL holders are the gate keepers they are some of the most perceptive folks. They also can not be charged with discrimination or any other of the usual civil liberty horse crap. (I just para phrased that)

All a FFL has to do is think he smells something off he or she can deny to transfer or sell a gun just because he or she doesn't feel right about it.

A big box store has folks in and out usually 3 shifts.

A local guy is the only guy looking at a nut job. But he is probably gonna have some reference on Nut Job a big box store can't get.

I'm not knocking big box and or saying we shouldn't have them, I'm saying bring back kitchen table FFL's

[Mars Bluff]

One of my son's friends is legitimately screwed in the head. He has been locked up in the loony bin 2 or 3 times and once for trying to kill himself. One time his mom called the cops because he was showing out at home and he fought three of them and gave them a run for their money. This kid looks like a typical MMA fighter minus any tats. Short blond hair blue eyed kid. He happens to be a black belt in judo and some kinda belt in karate. He has been hit with the bi-polar label along with multiple personalities by clinical doctors. Anyways he just turned 18 and comes to our house Friday and shows me the new AR15 he just bought at Cables in Augusta. SMH.

Not good

[Silentweapon338]

Did I miss a proposal being made?

Did these ass hats learn nothing during the flag incident.

Wait do not run out and make a rash decision.

Let the situation calm down.

Doing something right now is equivalent to the British raising their fist at the germans during the Blitz Kreig of London during WW2.
Didn't we disarm Germany after WW1?
Well now Brown Cow, what happened? Did the crazy guys figure out a way to get the guns and bombs anyway?
Did The allies by default strip militarization from the good guys by luring them into a false since of security?

How long did it take for us to get the good guys back up and running? IE good guy with a gun to kill bad guy with a gun?


Doing something now is frivolous.

They can't fix the roads, medicaid, their own retirement. They want to take on other people actions before they can handle actual things that matter. The latest slogan that sounds great "The opioid crisis" its like the The "crack epidemic" or the "War on Drugs"

If anything that stupid thing has done it has caused this mess. Now your gonna have major surgery and can't get meds because the government knows best.
Why are people seeking out drugs? They wanna get high that why!

Its fairly simple. People who are gonna abuse are gonna abuse. One could argue the strict rules in place already have cause the issue. So how is making more legislation and making it harder to receive pain meds a good thing?

The answer? It is feel good legislation.
I want a Dr and a patient deciding what is best for the patient. No where in their should be I can't do that the government said that bad for you!

Back to the gun legislation.

This is brownie points. This is BS to do anything.
You don't act irrational when you are suppose to be representing all the people. There is a loud minority of emoting people who want to heal their pain.

What the hell does Trump have anything to do with this? Why should Trump be held responsible?

The point is all of this feel good crap gets us no where.

Cooler heads need to prevail.

But hey when you have a crisis why waste it?

[SC REBEL]

What is the problem with each school having only on entrance opened and manned. You walk thru a metal detector, we do it at numerous other facilities and it is apparently effective to a degree. I under stand it may take longer to get the numbers of students thru but if need be based on size of school have two or three entrances. Additional cameras can be utilized on the school grounds and monitored, etc. It can be made safer if the liberals want it, but in reality they don't they are only interested in destroying this Country.

[Coastal Woodie]

What is the problem with each school having only on entrance opened and manned. You walk thru a metal detector, we do it at numerous other facilities and it is apparently effective to a degree.

My high school was set up exactly that way. Every student came through the same entrance and was funneled through metal detectors and the school resource officer was nearby if something did happen. There was also a teacher who carried every day even though it was illegal for him to do so, unfortunately he is retired now.

I had a couple other teachers tell me they would carry in school if it was legal for them to do so, instead they were forced to leave their guns in their vehicles.

[wbrown609]

Logistics makes this impossible at a lot of places. Kids go to different buildings for certain classes. Go outside for PE, band, etc. Smaller schools (high school and middle or early childhood and elementary) located adjacent to each other sharing cafeterias and gyms. Bus riders have to use different doors than car riders. I could go on and on.

[Mars Bluff]

Although it can happen anywhere, statistics are pointing to govt schools not being prepared. Why is not happening at private institutions?

[duckman88]

Although it can happen anywhere, statistics are pointing to govt schools not being prepared. Why is not happening at private institutions?

I would say, and this is a generaility, children in private school generally come from more stable homes and/or if they do have issues, the families are much more proactive in thier desire to treat mental health issues with meds or counciling. Private schools also will have smaller class sizes, resulting in teachers being able to spend more intentional/quality time with each student, making them feel more cared about and important. IMO, these differences get to the heart of the issue with all of these shooters.

[Mars Bluff]

I would say, and this is a generaility, children in private school generally come from more stable homes and/or if they do have issues, the families are much more proactive in thier desire to treat mental health issues with meds or counciling. Private schools also will have smaller class sizes, resulting in teachers being able to spend more intentional/quality time with each student, making them feel more cared about and important. IMO, these differences get to the heart of the issue with all of these shooters.

I agree. And I think adding armed guards and metal detectors will only make the students feel and act more like prisoners.

[Black Bart]

My high school was set up exactly that way. Every student came through the same entrance and was funneled through metal detectors and the school resource officer was nearby if something did happen. There was also a teacher who carried every day even though it was illegal for him to do so, unfortunately he is retired now.

I had a couple other teachers tell me they would carry in school if it was legal for them to do so, instead they were forced to leave their guns in their vehicles.

So if a teacher was to save the day with a weapon they were carrying illegally, y'all really think the judge and/or jury would throw the book at 'em?

[Saltydog235]

So if a teacher was to save the day with a weapon they were carrying illegally, y'all really think the judge and/or jury would throw the book at 'em?

Yep, and the media would somehow make the shooter into a hero. It'd be something like NRA backed republican teacher guns down mentally unstable, oppressed child from a broken home with excessive force. We need to ban the AR-15 Glock.

[Mars Bluff]

Yep, and the media would somehow make the shooter into a hero. It'd be something like NRA backed republican teacher guns down mentally unstable, oppressed child from a broken home with excessive force. We need to ban the AR-15 Glock.

Sad but true! Teacher would be given the death penalty.

[duckman88]

Yep, and the media would somehow make the shooter into a hero. It'd be something like NRA backed republican teacher guns down mentally unstable, oppressed child from a broken home with excessive force. We need to ban the AR-15 Glock.

I think it would depend on the state and the judge.

[Duck Tape]

Fuck Ducttape and the rest of the politicians. Those stupid fuck-chops are part of the reason we have these school shootings. After the first one, teachers should have been able to arm themselves. The majority of politicians don’t solve shit, they create it.

Have you seen the bills I have put froward to deal with this problem?

[JABIII]

I can certainly see God "telling" some of our elected leadership to enact gun controls just as HE "told" them to remove the flag from the Statehouse grounds. Especially at the federal
level. Great time to be in the gun and ammo biz coming again shortly...

[ecu1984]

Have you seen the bills I have put froward to deal with this problem?

Duck Tape introduced a bill that allows a teacher to carry if they are trained thru the Criminal Justice Academy.
I gave DT hell over the knee-jerk flag grandstanding they did(because it was merely fuel for other things like we have since seen with historical landmarks) ,
but I also give him props where deserved.