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    Quote Originally Posted by DJP View Post
    It looks to me, and I would love to be wrong, that we just handed over control of internet access to large TV, internet, and media companies. I have never met anyone who said they had a good customer experience with Comcast or Uverse or any cable provider. I think we just handed them the keys.
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    Internet was fine before Obuma signed this in 2015 and will continue to be fine if not better due to competition.
    Competition is what makes the price of things usually come down .......just saying

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    I imagine it will be much the same as it was less than two years ago before the regulation was implemented.

    And by that I mean, just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I imagine it will be much the same as it was less than two years ago before the regulation was implemented.

    And by that I mean, just fine.
    Hell wid that. We need something to be pissed about man! We need something to boycott!
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    Start with boiled okra and dudes named mitch.

    Both of those suck.

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    It was enacted to keep what has happened in Portugal and other places from happening here. It is already happening in other countries. Isp’s charging more for what what you want to watch or do online. Example you have att or twc/spectrum for internet. You watch tv online with sling, hulu, netflix, or amazon. Even though you have paid for the fastest service they provide. They can charge you extra for using those services. Note you have already paid for your macdaddy speedy service and bandwidth. It will be an extra fee. Like buying sports pakages through your tv provider now. As it was you could get anything on the internet as fast as the service you paid for and the web site could upload it. They will start charging for anything they can. Example. You have twc/spectrum and they don’t like fox news. They can throttle it back to dialup speeds while cnn is full speed unless you pay more. Example. They don’t like how some discussions go on this web site. They can slow it down or even block it on their network. The net neutrality rules said they couldn’t do that. You paid for an internet service and what you want to look at pays for their access. Alot of places you can’t get different high speed services and are stuck with what is avaliabe. They can fleece you like the cable companies did before satellite for tv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highstrung View Post
    Is this guy like silentweapons long lost uncle or something?
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    I trust the providers more than government regulators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mello_collins View Post
    It was enacted to keep what has happened in Portugal and other places from happening here. It is already happening in other countries. Isp’s charging more for what what you want to watch or do online. Example you have att or twc/spectrum for internet. You watch tv online with sling, hulu, netflix, or amazon. Even though you have paid for the fastest service they provide. They can charge you extra for using those services. Note you have already paid for your macdaddy speedy service and bandwidth. It will be an extra fee. Like buying sports pakages through your tv provider now. As it was you could get anything on the internet as fast as the service you paid for and the web site could upload it. They will start charging for anything they can. Example. You have twc/spectrum and they don’t like fox news. They can throttle it back to dialup speeds while cnn is full speed unless you pay more. Example. They don’t like how some discussions go on this web site. They can slow it down or even block it on their network. The net neutrality rules said they couldn’t do that. You paid for an internet service and what you want to look at pays for their access. Alot of places you can’t get different high speed services and are stuck with what is avaliabe. They can fleece you like the cable companies did before satellite for tv.
    So they tried to block the basic laws of supply and demand. Got it.

    Read the bold part out loud and then understand how free market competition will win out.

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    Everybody thought they were going to get free TV forever. You had to be dumb to believe change wasn’t coming.

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    It must be so exhausting being a liberal nowadays. Paris Climate Accord, Nancy DeVos, North Korea, DACA, now net neutrality, blah blah blah blah. My life, and happiness, is still overwhelmingly up to me to control. I choose no stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    So they tried to block the basic laws of supply and demand. Got it.

    Read the bold part out loud and then understand how free market competition will win out.
    It was the new tech of satellite that broke it. The next new tech is G5 wireless. Will enable gigabyte speeds over wireless. To bad the current ISP’s have those bandwidth spectrums already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mello_collins View Post
    It was the new tech of satellite that broke it. The next new tech is G5 wireless. Will enable gigabyte speeds over wireless. To bad the current ISP’s have those bandwidth spectrums already.
    You really think innovation will stop with G5 wireless?

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    Your internet provider just got the go ahead to decide what you can and cannot see and at what speeds they will allow you to access it. The reason it was enacted in the first place is because some ISPs started slowing connections to streaming services. Net neutrality just states you are allowed to browse the internet at your leisure and at the same speed that you pay for. Now they could charge you extra for certain content or block it altogether. I guarantee you will begin to see services begin to get "packages" providing full speed access only if you pay for it. Your cable company is ecstatic about this, that should tell you all you need to know.

    Hope they don't find your hunting and gun sites "objectionable" and block or slow your access to a crawl.

    Here's what you can look forward to:

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    I don't like laws that are put in place to stop something that might happen. If there had been abuses by big ISP's, those specific actions should have been addressed, not industry wide regulation. Most of the things that net neutrality is supposed to address could probably be prosecuted with existing anti-trust laws.

    I remember when AT&T got "divested" because they were "too big". Things weren't bad before and they have never gotten better for consumers.

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    Where’s Willy Wonka or Worm whatever his name is? He’s in cahoots with em. Tell us what the hell we can expect. Out with it. Should we be mad or not. I need to be prepared when I go back to work so I can argue like I know what I’m talking about. Don’t want to sound stupider than that other guy. Chop chop.

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    I always enjoy hearing different responses on things like this. If you’re a proponent of free markets, why shouldn’t Netflix and it’s subscribers pay more since its takes up around 35% of internet usage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmetto Bug View Post
    I don't like laws that are put in place to stop something that might happen. If there had been abuses by big ISP's, those specific actions should have been addressed, not industry wide regulation. Most of the things that net neutrality is supposed to address could probably be prosecuted with existing anti-trust laws.

    I remember when AT&T got "divested" because they were "too big". Things weren't bad before and they have never gotten better for consumers.
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    It already did happen. I think it was comcast and netflix. There were other documented instances. Because of the way the internet was wide open with no regulations there was no law against it. That is what prompted the change. Really net nuetrality rules reclassified the internet as a utility. Same as power and phone distribution.
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    If you pay the same rate for internet service as your neighbor but your neighbor decides to run a server farm from his house on a residential contract, should he pay the same price as you?

    In technical terms, some of this is called Quality of Service, or "QOS". Some types of data are more time sensitive than others. For instance, digital voice data cannot tolerate much lag before it is noticeable. It needs a steady, predictable flow rate. Text files can be transmitted with bursty transfer rates....buffer up a load and then let it go when the wire is quiet. If I am Comcast and I want to make sure my stuff gets there as subscribed...AND I paid for the infrastructure over which it is being transmitted, you can bet your ass I want to be able to control which data stream gets prioritized. If Netflix needs a guaranteed data rate, they need to pay the carriers their fair share. There are already laws that require "last mile" providers to allow the infrastructure they installed to be used by outside contractors.

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    I see it going to the SC, being fast tracked if prices start going up and people start complaining, issue will be if internet is now a utility with how necessary it is in our society
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