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    Default Say goodbye to the internet as you know it

    The major telcoms, ISPs, and the like are going to get even deeper into your pockets soon. Look to pay to play for most content you are used to getting for free. Small sites like SCDUCKS will be given 3 choices:

    1. Appear at dial up speeds
    2. Pay the Telcoms a huge ransom to appear at normal speeds
    3. Disappear

    Never thought I would agree with Mignon *******...

    The Federal Communications Commission today announced its plan to deregulate the broadband industry and eliminate net neutrality rules, setting up a December 14 vote to finalize the repeal.

    As expected, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to reverse the commission's classification of home and mobile ISPs as common carriers, eliminating the legal justification for the net neutrality rules and numerous other consumer protections. The Republican-controlled FCC is likely to vote 3-2 along party lines in favor of Pai's plan at its regular monthly meeting in December, ignoring Internet users who voiced widespread support for net neutrality rules.

    If FCC gets its way, we’ll lose a lot more than net neutrality
    Pai's decision is a big win for cable companies, telcos, and mobile carriers that will no longer face regulation of their broadband businesses under Title II of the Communications Act. Pai ignored numerous calls from consumer advocates, website operators, and Internet users who urged the FCC to preserve the rules that force Internet providers to treat all Web content fairly.

    Pai was on the losing end of a 3-2 vote in 2015 that imposed Title II regulations, including net neutrality rules that outlaw blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization. He started the repeal process shortly after President Trump appointed him chairman this year.

    Today, Pai said that he intends to eliminate the core net neutrality rules while preserving some requirements that ISPs inform consumers about their network management practices.

    "Under my proposal, the federal government will stop micromanaging the Internet," Pai said in a statement today. "Instead, the FCC would simply require Internet service providers to be transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy the service plan that's best for them and entrepreneurs and other small businesses can have the technical information they need to innovate."

    In May, Pai's FCC issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that proposed overturning the 2015 order and sought public comments. The FCC received 22 million comments, which were dominated by spam and form letters. But Internet users opposed Pai's plan en masse; one analysis found that 98.5 percent of unique comments were against Pai's repeal plan.

    Pai claims the rules have forced Internet providers to decrease investment in their networks, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Pai is also ignoring a call from Democratic Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, who said the FCC should hold public hearings across the country before altering net neutrality rules. The public comment process has been marred by spam bots, impersonation, and what the FCC called a DDoS attack on the comment system, she noted. The FCC should thus get the opinions of Americans in person before proceeding, she said.

    Pai circulated his proposal to fellow commissioners today and said he will release the draft order publicly tomorrow.

    “Restoring Internet freedom”—or destroying it?

    Pai titled his proposal, "Restoring Internet Freedom." Democratic Commissioner Mignon ******* called it the "Destroying Internet Freedom" plan, saying it will "dismantle net neutrality as we know it by giving the green light to our nation’s largest broadband providers to engage in anti-consumer practices, including blocking, slowing down traffic, and paid prioritization of online applications and services."

    Pai's plan "is simply a giveaway to the nation’s largest communications companies, at the expense of consumers and innovation," ******* said. "It is not only bad public policy but is legally suspect. I hope my colleagues will see the light, and put these drafts where they belong: in the trash heap.”

    Verizon and other ISPs have claimed that they support net neutrality rules and that they merely want them to be imposed "on a different legal footing," without Title II. But Pai is not trying to preserve any of the three core rules against blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization. Pai has previously suggested that throttling of online services might somehow benefit consumers.

    After the vote, expect a lawsuit

    After next month's vote, net neutrality supporters will likely sue the FCC to get the rules back on the books. They could argue that the FCC used flawed reasoning or an improper decision-making process, but courts have generally given deference to FCC decisions on whether to impose common carrier regulations. Former Chairman Tom Wheeler faced a challenge from broadband providers after his 2015 net neutrality decision, but the rules were upheld in court.

    While Pai can't stop a future Democratic chair from putting the rules back on the books, Congress could write a law that prevents strict regulation of ISPs.

    Today, Pai said that the FCC's former Democratic majority "bowed to pressure from President Obama. On a party-line vote, it imposed heavy-handed, utility-style regulations upon the Internet."

    Pai claimed again that this decision "depressed investment in building and expanding broadband networks and deterred innovation."

    "Today, I have shared with my colleagues a draft order that would abandon this failed approach and return to the longstanding consensus that served consumers well for decades," Pai said.

    ISPs will get to choose whether to uphold net neutrality

    Pai's decision to eliminate the Title II classification of ISPs will return some authority to the Federal Trade Commission, which is not allowed to regulate common carriers.

    "As a result of my proposal, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) will once again be able to police ISPs, protect consumers, and promote competition, just as it did before 2015," Pai said. "Notably, my proposal will put the federal government's most experienced privacy cop, the FTC, back on the beat to protect consumers' online privacy." Previously, Congress and President Trump repealed the FCC's consumer broadband privacy regulations, with Pai's support.

    Unlike the FCC, the FTC isn't able to create hard-and-fast rules that ISPs must follow, as we've previously written. But the FTC does have authority to prevent deceptive and unfair practices so that the agency can force companies to live up to the promises they place in their terms of service. If an ISP promises a neutral network and then fails to deliver, the FTC can then step in.

    But under this model, ISPs will be able to decide for themselves whether to follow net neutrality principles.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...regulate-isps/

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    Ewwwww.

    I hate regulation as much as anybody, but this might hurt a bit.
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    Can we get a nerd to provide some cliff notes for the kids at the back of the classroom?
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    Thank god youporn ain't a small site
    Seeing these soulless vanilla ice lookin Yankees on a bassboat is worse than watching a woman get her implants taken out. It's just wrong. Get back in your Lund and go back to infisherman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MolliesMaster View Post
    Can we get a nerd to provide some cliff notes for the kids at the back of the classroom?
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    You're also one of select few clemings with sense.

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    Bottom line is they are coming for your money. You can cut the cord all you want because they are coming for your phones and wireless devices and they will not be denied. Looks like the plan is to take their ball and change the game. Xfinity has wireless phone plans, at&t has been in the game but it will be interesting to see how apple, roku and the others modify their services dependent on ISP when they have no infrastructure. Big fish eat little fish. Be a good time to pick the right one and invest before the stock increase by a few hundred or thousand percent. Hey big man let me hold a dolla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MolliesMaster View Post
    Can we get a nerd to provide some cliff notes for the kids at the back of the classroom?
    or the ones that skipped class.
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    Cliff notes...the trump train isn't doing shit. And anyone wanting to put something on the internet will now need to pay data fees so that their site is easily accessible. If you don't pay the fees. Your shit gets tossed to the bottom of the internet to be discovered at dial up speed.

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    mc has it pretty well nailed down.
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    but...the wall.

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    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...n-example.html

    Here's a mockup of what it might look like

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    Productivity in this country is getting ready to skyrocket. Companies ain't paying an ISP or Telcom so that their employees can shop on Amazon or argue about who gets in the CFB playoffs I promise you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    Productivity in this country is getting ready to skyrocket. Companies ain't paying an ISP or Telcom so that their employees can shop on Amazon or argue about who gets in the CFB playoffs I promise you...
    Good point.

    Bye, internet friends.

    See some of you fools at Clemson football games.

    I'll see the rest of you at 2fer's farm for the opening day dove shoot next year.
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    Some of us don't ever get invited to that.

    Been nice knowing ya.

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    I will miss BT trying to explain how Kelly Bryant is the second coming of Jesus Christ, Quarterback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    Good point.

    I'll see the rest of you at 2fer's farm for the opening day dove shoot next year.
    Thanks for the invite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ1965 View Post
    I will miss BT trying to explain how Kelly Bryant is the second coming of Jesus Christ, Quarterback.
    And ecu56-7 might have an aneurysm if he doesn't have any where to get out his pent up anger towards all things Clemson.
    :FYT:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin View Post
    Thank god youporn ain't a small site
    Preach.....
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    I guess I'll just be cool with my group texts.

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    suits the hell out of me.

    I dont need any of that extra crap for $5

    I hope I have doves.
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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