NRA backs additional regs on bump stocks

[led0321]

These dudes better get silencers as a compromise...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/05/nra-...ing-rates.html

[turbo]

Poosies.

[Steelin' Ducks]

And somebody on here was just pushing for memberships.

[SCSportsman]

Not saying I agree or disagree, but just like the flag BS in SC, don't make a knee jerk decision. Let all the facts come out, emotions settle and then have a reasonable discussion. Never a good idea to legislate during times of crisis as mistakes made may never be able to be corrected.

[Coastal Woodie]

Poosies.

What he said.

[Carolina Counsel]

Not saying I agree or disagree, but just like the flag BS in SC, don't make a knee jerk decision. Let all the facts come out, emotions settle and then have a reasonable discussion. Never a good idea to legislate during times of crisis as mistakes made may never be able to be corrected.

I agree with this (but think that banning such devices is a good idea- flame away).

[DJP]

Dang T! How dare your say that! You are a sheep goat poosie crap tree huggin flametard liberal who only wants to shoot an old english double barrel! (read in sarcasm font)

[Mergie Master]

It would be fine with me if they banned them as a bargaining tool. Bump-stocks are a novelty not a serious transition of the gun. No one in the shooting community takes bump-stocks seriously. The only thing they're good for is wasting ammo and making a newcomers feel cool at the range. There's no way you can hit what you're aiming at using a bump-stock because you can't aim when bump-firing.

Anyone familiar with the AR platform also knows that you don't need a "bump-stock" to "bump-fire" an AR. Bump-firing (without a special stock) has been around ever since the AR platform first became popular. With a little practice anyone can learn to waste ammo bump-firing any AR. Bump-stocks have only been around since 2010. All they do is make bump-firing easier and save the shooter a lot of ammo while practicing to bump-fire.

Here's an 11 year old film of a guy showing how to bump fire an AR without a special stock:

[2thDoc]

NRA is to powerful gun lobby as Al Sharpton is to black lives.

who gave them this "power?"

I am not a fan of the NRA.

There. I said it.

[2thDoc]

and dammit i agree with the mergster. throw em a bone? but why "give them" bump stocks OR silencers.

I hate this "bipartisan movement in the wake of the shootings" BS.

[turbo]

It's all BS and the NRA is a band of pussies. They always have been.

[uga_dawg]

If fully automatic weapons are regulated, it's hard to make an intelligent argument for an add-on that's sole purpose is to mimic an automatic rifle.

[Steelin' Ducks]

It would be fine with me if they banned them as a bargaining tool. Bump-stocks are a novelty not a serious transition of the gun. No one in the shooting community takes bump-stocks seriously. The only thing they're good for is wasting ammo and making a newcomers feel cool at the range. There's no way you can hit what you're aiming at using a bump-stock because you can't aim when bump-firing.

Anyone familiar with the AR platform also knows that you don't need a "bump-stock" to "bump-fire" an AR. Bump-firing (without a special stock) has been around ever since the AR platform first became popular. With a little practice anyone can learn to waste ammo bump-fire any AR. Bump-stocks have only been around since 2010. All they do is make bump-firing easier and save the shooter a lot of ammo while practicing to bump-fire.
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Are those your words or did you copy and paste that?

[Mergie Master]

Are those your words or did you copy and paste that?

That was me. You can tell cause I had to edit it 3 times.

[Swamp Rat]

I have to like the NRA because through them I get my instructor's insurance and a lot of instructor training. None of which is on the ILA side of the house. Take a NRA Instructor class and they are all careful to make sure that it's known that they are not connected to the political side of the house.

[Mergie Master]

Not defending the NRA, I've had my dander get up over compromises they've made more than one time. But I'm tired of hearing so-called 2nd Amendment defenders use the Democrat lie that the NRA is a huge lobby that throws millions at Congressman. Nothing could be further from the truth. Compared to other lobbyist like corporate lobbyist, oil companies, etc. the NRA is a baby. They don't have the kind of dollars it takes to move legislation. The NRA's power is in it's numbers of members that vote. It uses that 4 million or 5 millions members as a bargaining chip.

[Swamp Rat]

If being a member makes me an enemy of Hillary, I'll whip out my life member card.

[turbo]

I'm just gonna have to be an enemy of Hillary on my own.

Fuck her and these spineless NRA turd lickers.

[mudflat]

Don't look like dude had to worry about aim, he took out plenty, spray and pray! I think I could design something better, but not sure what the law would allow and how bulky it would be.

[Swamp Rat]

I haven't closely looked at the pics from the scene and have honestly never had a case involving a bump fire stock. So I have no first hand experience. Two questions come to mind - A: can they operate reliably on guns fired from a bipod (seems like the bipod may inhibit the recoil impulse too much) and, if so, B: were any of the guns in the room with bipods fitted with these stocks?

Reason I ask - he may have been able to put down more effectively aimed fire if it was stabilized on a bipod.