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    The glyphosate thread got me thinking. What is your optimal herbicide mix and amounts to spay a food plot when getting it ready to plant? Let's say it has a mix of different types of weeds and they are relatively thick. What do y'all use?
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    Gramonone. Wait three days. Burn and till then plant. Whole process takes less than a week. I have power lines that are 3' tall in weeds and Johnson grass. I sprayed them last night just before dark and will burn on Tuesday.
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    Nope. Paraquat is great when you want to see the weeds wilt behind you, I will give you that. If you actually want to control them, Gly/2-4D is the go to. As your weeds develop the gly tolerance, heat up the 2-4. Quick burndown is not the answer and it took me a looooong ass time to realize it...

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    I read somewhere a while back that the quick acting stuff, doesn't actually get the whole plant, roots and all like normal Gly does. Not sure if that is true or not.
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    I sprayed a field with glyphosate and a 2-4D Dicamba mix. No-tilled sorghum and millet in different areas and had a bad stand. I decided then I wouldn't spray that mixture again for pre-plant.

    Not sure of the problem, but decided not to ttry it again.

    But it's hard to beat glyphosate + 2-4D + ammonium sulfate to kill shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtimeduckhunter View Post
    I sprayed a field with glyphosate and a 2-4D Dicamba mix. No-tilled sorghum and millet in different areas and had a bad stand. I decided then I wouldn't spray that mixture again for pre-plant.

    Not sure of the problem, but decided not to ttry it again.

    But it's hard to beat glyphosate + 2-4D + ammonium sulfate to kill shit
    Bad stand, as far as growth or weed problem? I know Glyphosate doesn't affect seed, didn't know about the rest?

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    So Jab, without getting technical about spray volumes, speed, etc. what is your ratio for glyphosate/2-4D per gallon?
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    I like a mix of 2 oz of gly and 2 oz of 2 4 D to the gallon. It kills everything. Takes about a week to see the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ_11 View Post
    Bad stand, as far as growth or weed problem? I know Glyphosate doesn't affect seed, didn't know about the rest?
    Definitely not the glyphosate, not sure on the 2-4D or Dicamba. One of them is labeled to spray at a certain growth stage, but I can't remember the particulars.

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    When is the best time of day to spray to help minimize vaporized spray drift. My chemical guys were saying to be real careful with 2 4 D around beans
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    I use a quart and a half of Gly and a pint of 24d per acre in a 20 gallon ATV sprayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtnap View Post
    I like a mix of 2 oz of gly and 2 oz of 2 4 D to the gallon. It kills everything. Takes about a week to see the results.
    Are there any issues with residual herbicide in the soil? How long do you wait to plant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtimeduckhunter View Post
    Definitely not the glyphosate, not sure on the 2-4D or Dicamba. One of them is labeled to spray at a certain growth stage, but I can't remember the particulars.

    Hopefully an expert can follow with some more info on how those to affect seeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman88 View Post
    Are there any issues with residual herbicide in the soil? How long do you wait to plant?
    Not with those two because they are post-emergent. They will not be any good on anything that is not yet growing. It is my understanding that with gly and 2-4d they are inactive when dried. I guess if you over loaded the piss out of its possible but I have never had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banded_mallard View Post
    Not with those two because they are post-emergent. They will not be any good on anything that is not yet growing. It is my understanding that with gly and 2-4d they are inactive when dried. I guess if you over loaded the piss out of its possible but I have never had a problem.
    Thanks. I am clueless when it comes to this herbicide stuff. Wonder if Clemson extension offer any type of herbicide class?
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    You can go take a private herbicide license class. I would assume they would explain some of these things. I have never taken the class but I am going to eventually get around to it. A lot of it is chemical specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman88 View Post
    So Jab, without getting technical about spray volumes, speed, etc. what is your ratio for glyphosate/2-4D per gallon?
    In simple terms the best way to think about this is how much herbicide per acre. Say you want to spray 2 quarts of gly per acre. Figure out how many acres you can spray with your sprayer and go from there. If you don't know you could do a test spray with just water.

    The label will say how much per acre. Pretty sure 2-4d is 1 - 3 quarts per acre depending on what you are trying to kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman88 View Post
    Are there any issues with residual herbicide in the soil? How long do you wait to plant?
    Not that I'm aware of. Never had any problems. Those herbicides have to make direct contact with a plant to kill it. I would wait until the stuff you sprayed is good and dead. Shouldn't be more than a week.

    I googled residual effect of 2 4 D a month or so ago because some guy was claiming it had one. There was one article on it about sugar cane yields on fields that had been sprayed versus unsprayed. That was all I could find. Everyone I talked to said it did not.

    Also, I am not a farmer. But I spray this mix on a weekly basis and it kills stuff.

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    I just mix about 3oz per gallon of that round up power max stuff from tractor supply and stuff is dead 4 days later.
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