Police Dashcam Footage Of Philando Castile Fatal Shooting

[Duck cutter]

I agree with that 100%. If, however, he was pulling his wallet or CWP out or reaching for it as he informed officer of gun...
and then tried to explain what he was reaching for and stated he was not pulling his gun out as officer makes assumption that, despite having just asked him for license and insurance, he was instead pulling his gun that he calmly admitted having without even being asked...then it was an overreaction and a bad shooting. The guy messed up by trying to comply with officers first requests while simultaneously trying to do right and inform him of his carry status...real life speed and circumstances...edgy cop freaked and shot despite never, ever being in any sort of danger. I understand it, but it was a mistake by a professional that resulted in death...not a justified shooting.

A lot of people are carrying and have never thought about how a traffic stop should or will go down...never once thought this scenario could happen to them. I've thought about it, but not to the extent that I have since seeing this video, and how I always thought about handeling it was not nearly as thought out and on point as what Duck Cutter just described.
Castile certainly didn't think enough about it, ran into the wrong cop, and lost his life trying to do the right thing at a traffic stop for a burned out light bulb.

When you first quoted me I thought you were being sarcastic.

[banded_mallard]

I think the man says I'm not pulling it out. That's what I hear.

On a second note this is a quote from another article on why he felt threatened:
(This is after he said he smelled weed)

I thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five-year-old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front-seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me?” he said.

That is some bullshit right their. This guy should be behind bars.

[uga_dawg]

Where was the gun when he was shot? There was a pic of it initially that showed the gun on the floor in the car. If I was on the jury that would be an important piece of information.

[marsh chicken]

Based on how he reacted as soon as the guy told him he was carrying a weapon the cop shouldn't have been a cop.

You must be part of the crowd that thinks by showing your CWP license or telling a cop you have a gun, that suddenly you become "one of the good guys" and they should instantly assume you mean no harm to them or others.

The cop calmly told him the first time "ok, don't reach for it" and the dipshit obviously kept reaching for it. That's how you get kilt.

[Featherduster]

Mr Castile matched the description of an armed robbery suspect.

“I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs. I have reason to pull it over.”
“The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.”

Sucks that Mr Castille didn't know that. Terrible situation.

[ndbrown213]

We can all play Monday morning quarterback, some of you excel at it. A man died. A human life isn't worth what it used to be.

[duckman88]

You must be part of the crowd that thinks by showing your CWP license or telling a cop you have a gun, that suddenly you become "one of the good guys" and they should instantly assume you mean no harm to them or others.

The cop calmly told him the first time "ok, don't reach for it" and the dipshit obviously kept reaching for it. That's how you get kilt.

Calmly?! What are you smokin'? The instant he said he had a gun, the officers body language and voice changed completely. We have no idea where in the car he was reaching or if he was reaching for his gun or not. You sure love those assumptions don't you?

[marsh chicken]

Calmly?! What are you smokin'? The instant he said he had a gun, the officers body language and voice changed completely. We have no idea where in the car he was reaching or if he was reaching for his gun or not. You sure love those assumptions don't you?

He sounded pretty calm the first time he told him "ok don't reach for it". Then it escalated the next two times he said it. Which leads me to believe the guy was reaching for his gun and not his wallet. That being said...you do realize you are assuming just as much as I am? Neither of us can see exactly what the guy reached for.

[Geetch]

The cop didn't know what the guy was reaching for either. The cop never saw a gun.

[SaltMuck]

Everybody got an opinion, but nobody was IN the car or IN the trial.....

[quack head 11]

So for the officers we have on here, if someone during a traffic stop tells you they are armed, do you automatically unholster your service weapon?

Is that SOP?

[rodandgun83]

it isnt justifiable in my mind. The cop could have retreated especially given the presence of the child. Two steps to the right and the cop would have been out of the line of fire or at least in a safer position. If the driver had intent to shoot the cop I don't think he would have told him about the gun.

But cops are gonna cop and fall back on their three to six months of "us versus then" and "as long as we go home safe" indoctrination.

Let me correct my earlier post. Using the word "justifiable" was a bad choice of wording. I'm going to say "understandable" based on the point of view. Also I agree with you on how he could've positioned his body out of a better line of fire.

[marsh chicken]

So for the officers we have on here, if someone during a traffic stop tells you they are armed, do you automatically unholster your service weapon?

Is that SOP?

Why would you ask that? The cop in this video didn't do that.

[uga_dawg]

Why would you ask that? The cop in this video didn't do that.

That's exactly what I see. When he says he has a firearm on him he draws his weapon. He keeps it at his side and the driver isn't staring down the barrel, but he did ready it.

For what it's worth I've had cops approach my truck with their weapon drawn. It was never pointed at me, but I've seen them approach with the gun unholstered at their side. But that is probably because I'm white.

[Mars Bluff]

The cop was loud & precise with his commands. Sounds like the girlfriend shouts NO also, as to tell him not to pull it right before the cop shoots. Very strange. Was he so nervous that he felt the need to shed the gun?

[banded_mallard]

There is no proof he reached for the Gun. According to the court case the officer on the passenger side testified that he thought he was reaching for his seatbelt. This it the same testimony that the girlfriend/wife gave. Just something I read in a separate article. The video does not tell the whole story. They also in the court case have the deceased sayin I am not reaching before he was shot.

[quack head 11]

Why would you ask that? The cop in this video didn't do that.

Im not sure how we can see something so differently? 1:09 mark is when he makes the comment about having a weapon and the officers hand automatically goes to his weapon.

I am not saying I would do anything different, I was just asking what the protocol normally is

[Geetch]

The protocol is for the cop to get home safely the public be damned.

[marsh chicken]

Im not sure how we can see something so differently? 1:09 mark is when he makes the comment about having a weapon and the officers hand automatically goes to his weapon.

I am not saying I would do anything different, I was just asking what the protocol normally is

His hand went to his weapon and he told him don't reach for it. He didn't start to draw it until the second command was given.

[PBiz]

Man Slaughter.. No way around it..