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Doesn't this effectively make a short barreled AR a non NFA item so long as it has a "brace" on it instead of a butt stock.
Can I just ordered a KAK Shockwave and a 10.5" barrel now?
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I'm getting close to starting my PDW build. BCM 9" 300 AAC upper on a PSA lower, and I'm gonna get that Law Tactical side folding adaptor. Just want something short and handy and STILL ballistically efficient. Which a 9" 5.56 won't be.
I'll stick to NFA - I like the standard AR stock instead of a brace.
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Depends on who you talk to and probably what load you shoot. I think a lot of bad guys have been shot to good effect with MK18's beyond that distance, though. It's not optimal, but it can work, obviously. I just would rather have a couple more inches and get a shade more velocity, a bit less muzzle blast, and more reliability. BCM says that 11.5" is the lowest they personally recommend. I went 12.5...
"Only accurate rifles are interesting " - Col. Townsend Whelen
So, what is the choice pistol brace to order and from where?
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I have both Sigs and several Shockwaves. I prefer the Shockwave. Thorsen makes a nice checkweld for it.
I was wondering the same thing as BugBuster, but would the addition of a cheek-weld constitute a modification, which would violate the ATF criteria in their decision?
Swamp Rat, have you ever tried a linear compensator like this one from Black River Tactical, which appears to get some good reviews for blast and flash reduction.
http://www.blackrivertactical.com/co...tegory=1799361
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"Keep your powder dry, Boys!" ~ George Washington
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All mine have SilencerCo Trifecta brakes so I can run my can on 'em.
"Only accurate rifles are interesting " - Col. Townsend Whelen
When I went with my 11.5" 5.56 I had the same delema. I decided that $200 to the ATF was more beneficial than $135 for an arm brace. It boils down to function and patience.
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Is using a trust still the best way to go or is going the individual route just as easy now?
I like my shockwave braces but they don't balance the gun as well as a regular stock would.
According to this article, the ATF letter ONLY applies to SB Tactical products, I.e., the Sig brace...
Dick, I think you make a darn good argument for an SBR.There are two main takeaways to this ATF reversal on SB Tactical stabilizing braces. I want to put these right out front so there is zero confusion.
This ATF reversal only applies to SB Tactical products. All other manufacturers of arm braces are NOT covered in this private letter. This cannot be overstated. The letter only applies to SB Tactical and SB Tactical products!
The ATF did, indeed, reverse its position with respect to SB Tactical’s proprietary pistol stabilizing braces. Shooting them from the shoulder no longer counts as a “redesign” of the products which previously made them subject to National Firearms Act regulations, i.e. short-barreled rifle. You can now fire an SB Tactical stabilizing brace from the shoulder and NOT be in violation of the law!
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/atf...from-shoulder/
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Well fuck if it's on the internet in a gun blog then it must be true
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