Liberty gun safe

[duckplucker]

Anyone own a Liberty gun safe? I looked at one in Schofield hardware in Florence this weekend. I'm interested in a Centurion 18, any good?

[Catdaddy]

I have one.....No problems in 13 years.

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[Duckkiller]

Buy bigger than you need. I've heard good things about liberty safes. I have a Champion though.

[hhickman]

I recently purchased a Liberty and have been very pleased thus far.

For what it’s worth, buy bigger than what you think you need. I have a 48 and already wish I had gone a little bigger.

[wbrown609]

Liberty makes some good safes, but I think the Centurion is their entry level model. I would just compare its specs against other similar priced models. I do think that Liberty model will be better than other entry level safes. At one time, some of the Centurion models were made in China, but I think they are all made in America now.

[sftull]

I have one and it has been great. It's has a mechanical combination lock, which I prefer but I didn't get it big enough. It's a 24 gun and I should have bought a 48 or 60. I'll buy another one.

[JBtflo]

For most safes, multiple the number of guns it is supposed to carry by 65% or so. So an 18 gun model would likely hold 18 x 0.65 = 11.7, round up to 12.

So it'll hold 12 guns at best, YMMV depending on the number of bolt guns and guns with scopes.

[DuvnDux]

I've had one for 13 years also and no problems except it shrunk. Buy the biggest that you can, you'll thank us later. I picked up a Winchester 18 today at Tractor Supply on sale to house several orphans living in various corners due to no more room in the Liberty.

[Jozie & Me]

They are pretty until your house catches fire. I won't rehash but use search function. I wouldn't keep a BB gun in a liberty. And their lifetime warranty isn't worth the paper it's on.

[millero]

I own a Liberty. I've never had any problems other than (like everyone up says) it shrunk. Definitely buy as big as you can afford, and bolt it down.

[jasonw]

I did some research on safes a few weeks back. For the most part, in a total house fire anything in your safe is going to be trash (especially guns). A gun might "survive" in a concrete lined safe, but it's going to look like it has been through the pitts of hell.

Anyway, I ended up talking to this lad @ http://www.griffinsafes.com/ He can answer all of your questions, but you will need some patience. I will probably end up going with a Griffin in the next few weeks.

His "concrete lined safe" is the best against an all out fire, but the phrase "preservation of contents" must be taken with a grain of salt. Watch his videos and you will see what I am talking about.

[mello_collins]

sturdy safe https://www.sturdysafe.com/ ugly but pure function, watch all the vids, I also am going to store water jugs on top of safe for a little extra time during fire

[WoodieSC]

sturdy safe https://www.sturdysafe.com/ ugly but pure function, watch all the vids, I also am going to store water jugs on top of safe for a little extra time during fire

Interesting concept. How many gallons, and how long do you think it will extend the time?

Fwiw, I've got a Heritage Centennial Series safe for my primary safe, well secured to the floor. Were I to do it again, I'd look at those Griffins, but the location of your safe also plays a role in how hot a fire gets and whether the safe will really take the brunt of it.

http://www.heritagesafe.com/heritage...al-series.html

I'm also a believer in not putting all your eggs in one basket. You don't want to have all your guns locked up in case the lock fails (electronic or mechanical), or if the safe is stolen. Just sayin'...

[mello_collins]

fire proofing in a standard gun safe or RSC, residential security container ( us gov designation) , is from the sheet rock in the lining, the sheet rock has little insulation value but hods water as it is made. Under high heat the water evaporates and becomes vapor, this carries off the heat as it gets into the safe. As soon as all the water vapor is gone, poof goes the contents. Concrete lined safes provide a little extra security, a lot depending on the conglomerate, some insulation value, and holds way more water than sheet rock. Think of mixing concrete in a barrel, that water is still in the hardened concrete. Again, high heat will cause it the evaporate into the safe, keeping it cooler longer. Fires normally travel along the ceilings of a structure. I plan on building basically a closet around my safe with fiber insulation bats. Rock Wool if I can get it. Basically cover the top of the safe in One gallon jugs of water. As the fries get hot enough the jugs will rupture. Soaking the insulation. If you have ever picked up fiberglass bats that have been soaked, they are heavy and hold a lot of water. Keeping the safe cool. The basic thought is to create another fire barrier outside the safe rather cheaply. I live outside of town and the fire response time will be longer. I am going with a sturdy safe due to its heavy steel construction. They use industrial oven insulation to keep the heat out of the safe instead of using water vapor to mediate the in interior temp.

[Palmetto Bug]

I'm not convinced a plastic bottle full of water would bust until all the water boiled out. You can boil water in a plastic jug. The heat transfers too quickly to melt the plastic.

My brother's apartment burned many years ago. One of the people inside was found dead on my brother's waterbed. The covers had burned completely off of it but the mattress was still intact.

[mello_collins]

I'm not convinced a plastic bottle full of water would bust until all the water boiled out. You can boil water in a plastic jug. The heat transfers too quickly to melt the plastic.

My brother's apartment burned many years ago. One of the people inside was found dead on my brother's waterbed. The covers had burned completely off of it but the mattress was still intact.

The water acts as a heat sink. I bet the boards under the water were fine. Same idea, as fire normally travels along the ceilings first. Protect the safe from the heat above. any thing falling on it should rupture the jugs, I would think. Old boy scout way of boiling an egg was to place water in a wax paper cup. Place in coals and boil your egg. Paper cup is fine until the water evaporates.

Just trying to buy a little more time for the fire department.

[Duck cutter]

I've got a liberty centurion and it has served me well.

Like other mentioned, it gets tight quick and you will have to use your imagination to get 18 guns in there all at one time.
The stock is collapsed on my AR and pushed back in as far as possible under the barrel rest rack and I even have one or two shotguns stored barrel down to try to make a little extra room for scoped rifles

[USMCsilver]

Whatever you get, add 2 Goldenrods if it is a large safe...1 if less than 36.

Also, inside motion lights are VERY nice to have.

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[Coastal Woodie]

Does anybody really have any complaints about the liberty centurion? I don't really care about the fire proofing, I'm more concerned about theft. I'm thinking about getting a pair of 24 gun safes for some guns I've got laying around.

[duckplucker]

I'm kind of feel the same way , if it burns it burns. I'll deal with that if it ever happens. I'm more worried about thief.