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    All of this listed below will go away so yes you could shoot a rifle from the ground.

    The bill in it's current form does not have the stiff penalties. I hear it will be amended in sub-committee.


    (2) Feral hogs may be hunted at night with or without the aid of bait, electronic calls, artificial light, or night vision devices:

    (a) at any time of the year with a bow and arrow other than a crossbow, or pistol having iron sights, a barrel length not exceeding nine inches, and which is not equipped with a butt-stock, scope, or laser site;

    (b) at any time of the year under authority of and pursuant to the conditions contained in a depredation permit issued by the department pursuant to Section 50-11-2570; and

    (c) from the last day of February to the first day of July of that same year with any legal firearm, bow and arrow, or crossbow when notice is given to the department pursuant to subsection (D). When hunting at night with a center fire rifle pursuant to this item:

    (i) a hunter using supersonic center fire ammunition must hunt from an elevated position at least ten feet from the ground;

    (ii) a hunter using subsonic center fire ammunition is not required to hunt from an elevated position provided that he is not carrying supersonic center fire ammunition for the same rifle.

    (3) Coyotes and armadillos may be hunted at night with or without the aid of bait, electronic calls, artificial light, or night vision devices:

    (a) at any time of the year with a bow and arrow other than a crossbow, a rimfire rifle, a shotgun with shot size no larger than a BB, or a pistol of any caliber having iron sights, a barrel length not exceeding nine inches, and which is not equipped with a butt-stock, scope, or laser light;

    (b) at any time of the year under authority of and pursuant to the conditions contained in a depredation permit issued by the department pursuant to Section 50-11-2570; and

    (c) from the last day of February to the first day of July of that same year with any legal firearm, bow and arrow, or crossbow when notice is given to the department pursuant to subsection (D). When hunting at night with a center fire rifle pursuant to this item:

    (i) a hunter using supersonic center fire ammunition must hunt from an elevated position at least ten feet from the ground;

    (ii) a hunter using subsonic center fire ammunition is not required to hunt from an elevated position provided that he is not carrying supersonic center fire ammunition for the same rifle.

    (B) The provisions contained in items (2)(c) and (3)(c) of subsection (A) do not apply to a person who has violated any provision contained in Article 4, Chapter 11, Title 50, except Section 50-11-708 and Section 50-11-750, during the previous five years.

    (C) For the purposes of this section, "night" means that period of time between one hour after official sundown of a day and one hour before official sunrise of the following day.

    (D) For the purposes of this section, "notice to the department" means that the landowner upon which the animals will be taken has either called the department at least forty-eight hours prior to hunting or registered the property as otherwise prescribed by the department. The notice must include the name of each person participating in the hunt, the hunting license number of each person participating in the hunt, and the location of the hunt. Property must be registered only one time during each season, or annually for year-round hunts.
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    I hope so. There should never be a suspension on hunting privileges longer than one year on first offense. 10 year suspension is some NAZI shit. Why not just hang them on the courthouse steps then? Good gracious!
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    If you kill them when they are 4-6pts, less people would tempted to shoot the lesser deer which would inhabit the woods..

    Problem solved
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodieSC View Post
    DT, in response to your first question, YES. I know I and my hunting buddies can be trusted to not shoot a deer after legal shooting time, no matter how large it might be. Not everyone in this 'sometimes Socialist State' is a bum and a poacher, contrary to what many of your political friends seem to think.
    Honorable sportsmen will continue to make good decisions. The deer hunter who hangs around late to shoot a hog or coyote will face a temptation. The renegade will have cover. The landowner will have his rights restored to defend his property. The politician will continue to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
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    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck Tape View Post
    Honorable sportsmen will continue to make good decisions. The deer hunter who hangs around late to shoot a hog or coyote will face a temptation. The renegade will have cover. The landowner will have his rights restored to defend his property. The politician will continue to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
    So to keep all of us honest and ethical Sportsmen/women from slipping to the Dark Side, have an 800 number we can call from the field to give our name, license number, and location to let DNR know we will be out in the field for X number of hours in case they get any calls.

    And if you really want to put a dent in the poacher/renegade population, implement a bounty on their heads. Include illegal aliens, meth heads, et al, in the bounties and the overall crime rate may really drop. Everybody on the right side of the law wins. Screw the rest, even if it includes politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodieSC View Post
    So to keep all of us honest and ethical Sportsmen/women from slipping to the Dark Side, have an 800 number we can call from the field to give our name, license number, and location to let DNR know we will be out in the field for X number of hours in case they get any calls.

    And if you really want to put a dent in the poacher/renegade population, implement a bounty on their heads. Include illegal aliens, meth heads, et al, in the bounties and the overall crime rate may really drop. Everybody on the right side of the law wins. Screw the rest, even if it includes politicians.
    Whoever got the phone answering job, will be bored. All these goodytoshoes will say they will call, but let a state record buck step out pass legal hours.

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    I havent read all the replies, but my opinion on the matter is the same as my opinion of hogs on WMA's...

    Everyone is so damned scared of someone killing a deer when they are hunting hogs, that they allow hogs to take over and displace deer, turkey, and any other natives that would otherwise be using and flourishing on the property.

    Outlaws are going to outlaw.

    For every deer you may save, 100 more pigs are born to displace another 50 deer, and 30 turkeys.

    If you want an example of more dumb shit the .gov's give us, they schedule hog hunts with dogs on federal lands the same days as youth turkey days. Why is that day better for dogs? Why not have a large chunk of time dedicated to hog dogging? Why does the .gov only want make it look like they are doing something to rid us of the hog infestation...?
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    Looks like it is stalled in subcommittee.

    It is similar to this. It may be enticement to leave an open briefcase full of money in a Walmart parking lot with the car window down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timsmith View Post
    Whoever got the phone answering job, will be bored. All these goodytoshoes will say they will call, but let a state record buck step out pass legal hours.
    Tim, I'm in full agreement with BB's comments. I only offered the suggestion of an 800 number to satisfy those in Cola who think we're all hooligans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duck Tape View Post
    Looks like it is stalled in subcommittee.

    It is similar to this. It may be enticement to leave an open briefcase full of money in a Walmart parking lot with the car window down.
    DT, just because we have a lot of shifty-thinking politicians doesn't mean the rest of us are crooked.
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    I think the 800 number is a reasonable approach. I am trying to get that put in for a more reasonable penalty that loss of license for ten years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodieSC View Post
    Tim, I'm in full agreement with BB's comments. I only offered the suggestion of an 800 number to satisfy those in Cola who think we're all hooligans.


    DT, just because we have a lot of shifty-thinking politicians doesn't mean the rest of us are crooked.
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    while you are at it- how bout a law keeping tractor trailers out of the left lane on multi lane roads- it would sure help with the traffic problems- even my trucker friends think it is needed and the oncoming federal regulations will make the rolling road blocks 10x worse.

    Back to the hogs and yotes- everybody wants us to be like Georgia as far as game laws so there you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck Tape View Post
    yes your are
    This is how you generate positive responses to politicians?
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    It is a shame that we have to wait for politicians to give us permission to protect our lands from invasive species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy View Post
    It is a shame that we have to wait for politicians to give us permission to protect our lands from invasive species.
    Ever heard of a depredation permit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck Tape View Post
    Ever heard of a depredation permit?
    Yes. I have one for beavers. But it is along the same lines. We have to get permission from a government agency that is only allowed to issue what politicians say they can.
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    And I'm not trying to bash you DT, it is the political system in general. I really do appreciate you keeping us up to date on what is going on with proposed legislation.
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