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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    This is going to cut out Christmas farm hunts...


    I hope they ban bowhunting and the QDMA..
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    Quote Originally Posted by uga_dawg View Post
    Its still alive and well in Georgia. I'd say it will die a slow death IF there isn't any reform.
    My question (and I mean this sincerely as I do not know much about it as I don't hunt there) is did the regulations in Georgia help to minimize the issue? Or is it a case of renegades will be renegades?

    Also, another idea came to me and Pbiz, I think you should collaborate with Mr. Ruth on this one: 'Quality Dog Management' you can enroll you pack of dogs in it. Of course you need to show proof that you using all of the latest gadgets and gizmos (to keep track of your herd) as well as actively managing the herd and culling if necessary.

    Another option: Dog hunters introduce a bill requiring still hunters to put up a short fence around their properties to keep dogs out.
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    I think this is written to fail. What difference is it whether my neighbors labs run on my property 5 times in three months or deer dogs are on my property 5 times in three months? Do they both owe me 1/5 of my plantations worth? Hope my neighbors have 2 million dollars up front. (Being sarcastic of course). But seriously, I don't own deer dogs. I now own long legged rabbit dogs.

    On a more serious note, as PBiz said, I can keep my dogs on 100 acres. If they required a man to own GPS collars and he can't keep up with his dogs, then he simply isn't trying or he needs to keep his dogs out the fox pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman88 View Post
    My question (and I mean this sincerely as I do not know much about it as I don't hunt there) is did the regulations in Georgia help to minimize the issue? Or is it a case of renegades will be renegades?

    Also, another idea came to me and Pbiz, I think you should collaborate with Mr. Ruth on this one: 'Quality Dog Management' you can enroll you pack of dogs in it. Of course you need to show proof that you using all of the latest gadgets and gizmos (to keep track of your herd) as well as actively managing the herd and culling if necessary.
    Im far from an expert on it as dog hunting is only allowed in some countries in south GA and it didn't affect me.

    But I know it has to be 1000 contiguous acres and they require a permit. Not sure about training or any other details. And I can't speak to them getting off the club. But the clubs I knew of were very well organized and wanted to do it right. Having 1000 acres helps to ensure that people have a little more skin in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post


    I hope they ban bowhunting and the QDMA..
    now we getting somewhere....
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    I don't give a rats ass about trophy bucks, qdma, deer beds, or any other bullshit. What I do care about is enjoying the property I hunt as I see fit. I don't spend money on food plots, deer stands, and drive my ass over an hour to sit and listen to some renegades dog run around the woods barking non stop for three hours straight. I don't bring my wife or friends kids up to try and shoot a deer only to have some assholes "deer dog" come run the damn thing off. The dog clubs near us put pens near two entrances to our hunting club so we can put the loose dogs we catch in the pen. Is that supposed to be some sort of favor?

    The acreage thing doesn't work nearly as well as people want it to. The dogs run around all over the place and I'm sitting in a tree...it's not the easiest thing in the world to jump down, catch the dog, call the DNR, drive to a meeting place with the mutt, and hand over the dog. And if I do all that, the hunt is absolutely fucked. Congrats....I just drove an hour away to chase dogs around the woods that don't belong to me. I go up to our place to enjoy myself and maybe shoot a deer, not play dog catcher/game warden for the state so they can regulate a bunch of assholes that don't care about anyone but themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman88 View Post

    Another option: Dog hunters introduce a bill requiring still hunters to put up a short fence around their properties to keep dogs out.
    There's that typical dog hunter mindset that will result in dog hunting eventually being banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-stick View Post
    The sad thing is that it isn't just about deer hunting with dogs..

    It has to do with all dogs.

    I wish they would just ban still hunting instead.
    I think it should be legal for folks to man drive dog clubs if they have land adjacent to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kioti View Post
    There's that typical dog hunter mindset that will result in dog hunting eventually being banned.
    That, along with my other suggestions was said in jest...
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    They need to do away with baiting with corn then there won't be all the griping and you can plant food plots but not hunt over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waccamaw Kid View Post
    They need to do away with baiting with corn then there won't be all the griping and you can plant food plots but not hunt over them.
    You should change your name to "fucking idiot"

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    How do you keep your dogs in a small tract Biz? As a life long dog hunter who grew up with 40,000 plus acres to hunt, I'm curious as to how you contain em in such a small area? As we lost timber company land we went from running 100-150 fast July walkers to highstrung beagles. Even with the fox trial beagles we had trouble keeping them close.
    U serious Clark?

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    you can throw out a million and 1 ideas on what would fix it all. it is hard to cover everything with a rule and still be able to enjoy your style of hunting.

    on second note.
    still hunters need to realize there are some terrible dog clubs out there and a lot of other clubs do everything in there absolute power to keep dogs from getting off of property.
    still hunters need to also realize technology has come along way and is getting better by the year. dog hunting has changed in almost 90% of clubs meaning used to not have tracking collars of any sort and now there are gps style tracking systems.

    dog hunters have went and spent the money on gps collars to help control and stay on top of dogs so they can keep their style of hunting alive. If you hunt in a problem area the club that is specifically giving you problems needs to be addressed not DOG HUNTERS as a whole. quite a few dog hunters have collar broke deer dogs just like we have had rabbit dogs ever since the invention of a shock collar.
    all of this is to help protect both styles of hunting. It is only getting better and better for both worlds but in mean time of it being 100% complete we need to work together because once the dog hunting is taken away from those that do enjoy it, the opportunity never comes back.

    acreage isn't an answer. 200 acres with 2 or 3 packs of dogs that are short range or collar broke is perfectly legit and sensible. 200 acres with 5 or 6 packs of dogs that is collar broke and you can keep them on property is perfectly legit and sensible. now 3 high strung dogs on 200 acres that they only are on for matter of few min is completely STUPID.
    but it all goes back to dog hunters have made a lot of changes to keep from causing problems and I am sick and tired of all dog hunters being put in same category.

    qdma doesn't want to be put in same category as if it is brown its down, so quit putting DOG HUNTERS all together when it isn't all DOG HUNTERS doing the idiotic things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkchop 13 View Post
    you can throw out a million and 1 ideas on what would fix it all. it is hard to cover everything with a rule and still be able to enjoy your style of hunting.

    on second note.
    still hunters need to realize there are some terrible dog clubs out there and a lot of other clubs do everything in there absolute power to keep dogs from getting off of property.
    still hunters need to also realize technology has come along way and is getting better by the year. dog hunting has changed in almost 90% of clubs meaning used to not have tracking collars of any sort and now there are gps style tracking systems.

    dog hunters have went and spent the money on gps collars to help control and stay on top of dogs so they can keep their style of hunting alive. If you hunt in a problem area the club that is specifically giving you problems needs to be addressed not DOG HUNTERS as a whole. quite a few dog hunters have collar broke deer dogs just like we have had rabbit dogs ever since the invention of a shock collar.
    all of this is to help protect both styles of hunting. It is only getting better and better for both worlds but in mean time of it being 100% complete we need to work together because once the dog hunting is taken away from those that do enjoy it, the opportunity never comes back.

    acreage isn't an answer. 200 acres with 2 or 3 packs of dogs that are short range or collar broke is perfectly legit and sensible. 200 acres with 5 or 6 packs of dogs that is collar broke and you can keep them on property is perfectly legit and sensible. now 3 high strung dogs on 200 acres that they only are on for matter of few min is completely STUPID.
    but it all goes back to dog hunters have made a lot of changes to keep from causing problems and I am sick and tired of all dog hunters being put in same category.

    qdma doesn't want to be put in same category as if it is brown its down, so quit putting DOG HUNTERS all together when it isn't all DOG HUNTERS doing the idiotic things.
    Ok, how under the current laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-stick View Post
    The sad thing is that it isn't just about deer hunting with dogs..

    It has to do with all dogs.

    I wish they would just ban still hunting instead.
    Bullshit.

    Both bills clearly say "To define the term Deer hunting with a dog"

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh chicken View Post
    I don't give a rats ass about trophy bucks, qdma, deer beds, or any other bullshit. What I do care about is enjoying the property I hunt as I see fit. I don't spend money on food plots, deer stands, and drive my ass over an hour to sit and listen to some renegades dog run around the woods barking non stop for three hours straight. I don't bring my wife or friends kids up to try and shoot a deer only to have some assholes "deer dog" come run the damn thing off. The dog clubs near us put pens near two entrances to our hunting club so we can put the loose dogs we catch in the pen. Is that supposed to be some sort of favor?

    The acreage thing doesn't work nearly as well as people want it to. The dogs run around all over the place and I'm sitting in a tree...it's not the easiest thing in the world to jump down, catch the dog, call the DNR, drive to a meeting place with the mutt, and hand over the dog. And if I do all that, the hunt is absolutely fucked. Congrats....I just drove an hour away to chase dogs around the woods that don't belong to me. I go up to our place to enjoy myself and maybe shoot a deer, not play dog catcher/game warden for the state so they can regulate a bunch of assholes that don't care about anyone but themselves.
    I know where you hunt and theirs some dog hating SOBs over their.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh chicken View Post
    You should change your name to "fucking idiot"
    Ha. I read it three times and everytime I thought this is the dumbest thing I've read today. And I even read that boobs can be too big.
    Quote Originally Posted by Waccamaw Kid View Post
    They need to do away with baiting with corn then there won't be all the griping and you can plant food plots but not hunt over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timsmith View Post
    I know where you hunt and theirs some dog hating SOBs over their.
    With good reason. You can't sit in the woods on a Wednesday or Saturday/Sunday morning without listening to non stop barking and having at least one dog run by your stand. We hunt on over 6,000 acres. Most of the guys just deal with the pain in the ass of having it go on. It's not worth the hassle trying to catch dogs just to make a complaint and completely ruining your hunt even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh chicken View Post
    With good reason. You can't sit in the woods on a Wednesday or Saturday/Sunday morning without listening to non stop barking and having at least one dog run by your stand. We hunt on over 6,000 acres. Most of the guys just deal with the pain in the ass of having it go on. It's not worth the hassle trying to catch dogs just to make a complaint and completely ruining your hunt even more.
    I hunted for 20 years with the boys across the dirt road ,been guit for 4 . I heard they have gps and shock collars on dogs now, is it still bad every time you hunt ? The Wednesday boys have 10 times the dogs and their the next club up River.

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