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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    So what is Trump going to do in office that will change things? What will he actually DO to make a difference?
    What will any of them do? We don't know yet. I do know this, he is not bought and paid for. Hell even my second pick Jeb Bush needed money from his brother to help his floundering campaign. I wonder where that came from? Hes not a politician, so I can trust him a lot more than I can the slime balls that come from Washington any day. The GOP is joke, and seeing the GOP not back Trump make me want him more and more each day.

    If it was up to me I would clean Washington out of everyone and start over. But at least with Trump we can start with the president. If he doesn't win the primary then I will settle for the winner. All you saying he supports abortion need to quit listening to the lies of Bush and Cruz. He is supported by the Christian Evangelicals in our state and abroad. I would hope the likes of Mark Burns and Mike Murdock would not turn their back on their faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowcountryBuck View Post
    horseshit.


    Who is going to pay to deport 12 Million people, a strong majority of which are here doing things Americans dont want to do. Go hang around a farm in the lowcountry for a few days and you will get my drift. Let's make them legal immigrants (not citizens), and make them pay taxes going forward.
    Because the gov is paying them to sit on their ass. Cut the welfare and they will pick a cucumber or clean a hotel toilet if they want to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDII Colt View Post
    Because the gov is paying them to sit on their ass. Cut the welfare and they will pick a cucumber or clean a hotel toilet if they want to eat.
    Amen
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    4 Questions Trump needs to answer.

    Questions for Donald Trump
    1. You have proposed building a 1,000-mile-long wall on the U.S.’s southern border, and have estimated it will cost $8 billion. How exactly will you “make” the sovereign nation of Mexico and its elected president and Congress pay for it? Former Mexican President Felipe Calderon said: “We will not pay any single cent for such a stupid wall.” What leverage will you use to change their minds, besides the increased fees you propose? Tariffs? Sanctions? Military force?
    2. You have declared that you will deport all 11 million undocumented workers estimated to be currently living in the U.S. Will they simply be dropped on the other side of the Great Wall of Mexico or will they be tried in U.S. courts? If the latter, how much will it cost to triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and beef up court personnel? The conservative American Action Forum estimated mass deportation would take 20 years and cost taxpayers $400 billion-$600 billion, not to mention an estimated $1.6 trillion drop in GDP. Where will we make up the shortfall?
    3. You have said you would declare China a currency manipulator on your first day in office, enforce stronger protection against Chinese intellectual property theft and eliminate illegal export subsidies. Since most of these are controlled by the Chinese government, how will you compel President Xi Jinping to act in America’s interest rather than China’s? And what will you do if he refuses? (See question 1.)
    4. You claim your plans to simplify and reduce taxes for individuals and corporations would be revenue-neutral, paid for by “reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.” But you’ve already said you won’t touch deductions for mortgage interest or charitable contributions. How does that gibe with the pro-business Tax Foundation’s estimate that your plan will add $10-12 trillion to the national debt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningWoody View Post
    The establishment, you know what the establishment is. Im pretty sure you are an intelligent man, I've drawn that much so far from your post. The establishment is every single politician in washington right now that allows the political quagmire that is American politics to continue. Every single politician pounds the words of change loudly but never really accomplishes jack shit. So excuse me for not trusting politicians, politicians who have had their chance in Washington already and have yet to derail the cluster that BHO has put us in. Donald Trump is the middle finger to the establishment, the career politicians who are good at nothing but getting re-elected. Washington is so disconnected from the voters its not even funny anymore. We are falling further and further into the shitter and we need someone who isnt going to tote the line of the party. The same party that is content with keeping up the status quo and not doing a damn thing different. They continue to pad their pockets with lobby money while ignoring the voters who put them in office.
    Do you go around church telling folks you are voting for the guy that is going to give a middle finger to the so called establishment?

    I'm picking on you for that hypocrisy a bit, but in reality I think you are misguided on the whole gridlock deal. The reason Washington is so gridlocked is R's want to do what they want, D's want to do what they want, and since 2000 this country has been so divided and the margin so small that neither party has enough majority to get anything done, and they wont compromise because the second a republican hints of compromising with a democrat to get something done they are lambasted and seen as sleeping with the enemy, and risk getting voted out.

    Do you think sending trump to Washington accomplishes anything you said you want? He will do the opposite, I mean he will be Mark Sanford 2.0, where everyone in all parties will hate him and nothing will get done.

    There are candidates in this election that represent what a majority of conservatives want and can rationally hold the commander in chief responsibility as well as get things done.

    Think about the message you think you will send, and whether it is the right one.

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    4 Questions Bernie needs to answer.

    Questions for Bernie Sanders
    1. You have promised to offer free tuition for all public colleges and universities, paid for by a transaction tax on trading. But don’t more than 80% of college students already get some form of financial aid and more than a third get federal grants? And aren’t fewer than 40% of American students even academically ready for college and won’t only six in 10 students at four-year colleges graduate in six years? What will you do to ensure much of this money won’t be wasted?
    2. You have promised to extend Medicare for all, to be paid for by massive tax increases on the wealthy. Although you estimate it would be revenue-neutral, other experts say it would add $3 trillion-$14 trillion to our national debt over the next decade. What if your higher taxes fail to bring in the tax revenues needed to make this work? Does it matter to you if the debt increases dramatically?


    3. You have proposed raising the top federal marginal tax rate to 52%, hiking the estate tax, and taxing many capital gains and dividends as ordinary income, bringing in a projected $1 trillion a year in additional tax revenue.
    But adding in the payroll tax, some have estimated the top tax rate would hit 77%, and rates for households earning $250,000 or more would be 62% for federal taxes only. What incentive would these people have to work harder or even to work at all? And with much higher capital gains taxes for the more affluent, how would that affect the key job-creating engines of entrepreneurship and innovation?
    4. In fact, what incentives would businesses have to create “decent-paying jobs” in the U.S. at all rather than ship them overseas or hire robots? The Tax Foundation estimates your plan would reduce capital investment by 18.6% and eliminate nearly 6 million jobs. With $1 trillion in projected “infrastructure spending” over the next five years employing an estimated 13 million Americans, will all job growth come from federal government hiring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDII Colt View Post
    Because the gov is paying them to sit on their ass. Cut the welfare and they will pick a cucumber or clean a hotel toilet if they want to eat.
    yeah that all happens the moment Trump is elected. Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningWoody View Post
    What will any of them do? We don't know yet. I do know this, he is not bought and paid for. Hell even my second pick Jeb Bush needed money from his brother to help his floundering campaign. I wonder where that came from? Hes not a politician, so I can trust him a lot more than I can the slime balls that come from Washington any day. The GOP is joke, and seeing the GOP not back Trump make me want him more and more each day.

    If it was up to me I would clean Washington out of everyone and start over. But at least with Trump we can start with the president. If he doesn't win the primary then I will settle for the winner. All you saying he supports abortion need to quit listening to the lies of Bush and Cruz. He is supported by the Christian Evangelicals in our state and abroad. I would hope the likes of Mark Burns and Mike Murdock would not turn their back on their faith.
    As soon as Trump announced his bid for presidency, he became a politician. Although he is not 'Bought and paid for' in the formal sense which I believe you are getting at, I am sure he still owes plenty of 'favors' to many, many people.
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    I'd like to say that I'm surprised by how many people will vote for a dumbass, like Trump, but I'm really not surprised, at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowcountryBuck View Post
    Do you go around church telling folks you are voting for the guy that is going to give a middle finger to the so called establishment?

    I'm picking on you for that hypocrisy a bit, but in reality I think you are misguided on the whole gridlock deal. The reason Washington is so gridlocked is R's want to do what they want, D's want to do what they want, and since 2000 this country has been so divided and the margin so small that neither party has enough majority to get anything done, and they wont compromise because the second a republican hints of compromising with a democrat to get something done they are lambasted and seen as sleeping with the enemy, and risk getting voted out.

    Do you think sending trump to Washington accomplishes anything you said you want? He will do the opposite, I mean he will be Mark Sanford 2.0, where everyone in all parties will hate him and nothing will get done.

    There are candidates in this election that represent what a majority of conservatives want and can rationally hold the commander in chief responsibility as well as get things done.

    Think about the message you think you will send, and whether it is the right one.
    I dont go around my church talking politics period, some still feel if you wear jeans to church you are bound for hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKW View Post
    I'd like to say that I'm surprised by how many people will vote for a dumbass, like Trump, but I'm really not surprised, at all.
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    This is worst than the Gamecock/ Tater bashing. Of course everybody thinks they are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowcountryBuck View Post
    yeah that all happens the moment Trump is elected. Awesome.
    Did I say anything about Trump? However do you really think act of love Jeb, KissAssIck, Gang of 8 Marco , Hillary, Bernie is going to do anything about it?

    Yeah, lets make 12 million lawbreakers instantly "legal" then see how long it take for the politicians to give them voting rights.

    By the way --- NOT a Trump fan. He would be better than those I listed above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDII Colt View Post
    Did I say anything about Trump? However do you really think act of love Jeb, KissAssIck, Gang of 8 Marco , Hillary, Bernie is going to do anything about it?

    Yeah, lets make 12 million lawbreakers instantly "legal" then see how long it take for the politicians to give them voting rights.

    By the way --- NOT a Trump fan. He would be better than those I listed above.
    You have a cute nickname for them all. Amazing, Rubio tried to compromise. Imagine that.

    I don't think legal immigrants can vote. I am not in favor of citizenship for them.

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    The amount of window lickers in here is incredible.

    Good points

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    some un educated jokers in here.

    I dont have time right now...but somebody cliff notes the actual stances of each candidate....on only the things that we should have our eyes on for our families future....what you will find is alot of blanks besides trumps name. You ask him a question about Military ramp up he calls Cruz a pussy.....ask him about corporate taxation code of s corps....and he states a loaded answer about how Bush or Obama have messed these things up.

    Trump is change for sure....but it will be up to his staff to keep him from blowing up London 6 mths in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowcountryBuck View Post
    You have a cute nickname for them all. Amazing, Rubio tried to compromise. Imagine that.

    I don't think legal immigrants can vote. I am not in favor of citizenship for them.
    So compromising with Schumer and Graham is a good idea?

    AND do you Really think the Dems and Grahams will leave it at "legal" once that ball starts moving.

    They will have voting rights before they are done --- bank on that.

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    I find it so entertaining watching you all fight over who has the best and most flavorful turd.

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    His responses to everything:

    We are going to be great.
    We are going to be so great.
    We will be great in trade.
    We will build a wall.
    Mexico will pay for the wall.
    We will work with the greatest minds in this county. They are my friends. You have not even heard of some of them.
    We are losing.
    We are going to be so great and strong again.
    We will bomb and kill Isis.



    Not a single thing he has said is substantive. It just riles up a shocking number of people that "are sick of it". It is really unbearable to listen to him speak.

    Can you imagine this clown doing a State of the Union address?

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    We don't win anymore

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