Rock Sliders

**Steelin' Ducks** · 12-29-2015, 06:36 PM

After the in caps are welded on you have completely sealed up the tube. If you were going to hot dipped galvanize them that will not work. You need to plan on having vent holes and drain holes for the galvanizing process. If you take him to the galvanizer without vent holes they take it upon themselves to blow holes in it with the torch.
Just something to plan on.

**Fireman** · 12-29-2015, 07:27 PM

I'd have them powder coated. I'd also put an air Chuck in them and make them air tanks. Would be super simple.. I have a set I built out of DOM tubing on my Samurai and can run air tools/ inflate tires with. Comes in handy for a trail fix..

**WoodieSC** · 12-29-2015, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Chessbay

This 140 is awesome, especially to run on 110V. It's rated up to 1/4", but I suspect it will weld bigger. It's the Millermatic which will figure out wire speed for you if you set the material thickness. I find myself rarely using that option now that I know what I like.

That's great to hear. I've got the Hobart 140 Mig but haven't used it yet. I've had a Miller stick, but the 220v circuit in the garage is undersized due to the length of the of run from the breaker so I changed to the 110v machine.

Originally Posted by smitch320

I'm actually stuck between the ******* 140 and the Hobart 140.

As said above, Miller makes the Hobart, but double check before you choose Miller over Hobart. I found that the Miller model has some plastic parts in it that are steel in the Hobart. Beats me why, but a guy at a local welding shop confirmed it to me, and they sell Millers.

Real nice work there, Chessbay. You've encouraged me to get busy on some projects, including some bush hog repair welds that I wasn't sure this Hobart would handle.

**Steelin' Ducks** · 12-29-2015, 08:03 PM

I make a living with welding machines. These days we only run Millers

**fro** · 12-29-2015, 08:10 PM

Damn pretty bead for only welding for a year or so.

Cool build

**cusportsman** · 12-29-2015, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

I make a living with welding machines. These days we only run Millers

Yep, Carolina Welder Services in Lake City repairs all kinds of machines and he says Miller is the best hands down. Pretty much everything else is made in Mexico and parts can be hard to get.

Good looking welds Chessbay.

**WoodieSC** · 12-29-2015, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

I make a living with welding machines. These days we only run Millers

I am only referring to the 110v models, based on what the sales guy showed and told me. The commercial machines are unquestionably top notch stuff.

**Chessbay** · 12-29-2015, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

After the in caps are welded on you have completely sealed up the tube. If you were going to hot dipped galvanize them that will not work. You need to plan on having vent holes and drain holes for the galvanizing process. If you take him to the galvanizer without vent holes they take it upon themselves to blow holes in it with the torch.
Just something to plan on.

You know, I knew that but it had honestly not crossed my mind.

Hmmm.

I have seen several of these built, but am not sure how they got around the vent hole issue. Maybe the ones I have seen have drain holes drilled in the bottom of the slider?

I'll research that and try and figure it out, glad you said something.

**murraywader** · 12-29-2015, 10:30 PM

Does this mean you are going to take it off the paved road?

**Chessbay** · 12-29-2015, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by murraywader

Does this mean you are going to take it off the paved road?

No

Ok, maybe……….this one has been to Uwharrie before.

**Bownut** · 12-30-2015, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Chessbay

You know, I knew that but it had honestly not crossed my mind.

Hmmm.

I have seen several of these built, but am not sure how they got around the vent hole issue. Maybe the ones I have seen have drain holes drilled in the bottom of the slider?

I'll research that and try and figure it out, glad you said something.

You still want to put a hole in it. It will get water in it from condensation and rust out from the inside.

**Bownut** · 12-30-2015, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by cusportsman

Yep, Carolina Welder Services in Lake City repairs all kinds of machines and he says Miller is the best hands down. Pretty much everything else is made in Mexico and parts can be hard to get.

Good looking welds Chessbay.

Ole Todd. Good peoples.

**Steelin' Ducks** · 12-30-2015, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Bownut

You still want to put a hole in it. It will get water in it from condensation and rust out from the inside.

Not when it has been galvanized.

**Bownut** · 12-30-2015, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

After the in caps are welded on you have completely sealed up the tube. If you were going to hot dipped galvanize them that will not work. You need to plan on having vent holes and drain holes for the galvanizing process. If you take him to the galvanizer without vent holes they take it upon themselves to blow holes in it with the torch.
Just something to plan on.

Originally Posted by Bownut

You still want to put a hole in it. It will get water in it from condensation and rust out from the inside.

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

Not when it has been galvanized.

I meant even if he had it powder coated he would still want to put a weep hole in it for condensation. I've seen a lot of square tubing turned into round from the water freezing inside it.

**Chessbay** · 12-30-2015, 07:25 PM

I got a little further today and started installing the jack points, I used 1.5 OD pipe. I only got one put in and am pretty happy with it, but I don't like the fact that I can see the outline of the pipe on the side of the slider (only on the outside as it sits flush). Not sure how to remedy that unless I try and lay down a really, really small bead of weld and grind it flush. I might drill it out and start over, or I might not be so OCD and screw it. It will likely fill up with zinc and be unnoticeable to begin with.

**Bownut** · 12-30-2015, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Chessbay

I got a little further today and started installing the jack points, I used 1.5 OD pipe. I only got one put in and am pretty happy with it, but I don't like the fact that I can see the outline of the pipe on the side of the slider (only on the outside as it sits flush). Not sure how to remedy that unless I try and lay down a really, really small bead of weld and grind it flush. I might drill it out and start over, or I might not be so OCD and screw it. It will likely fill up with zinc and be unnoticeable to begin with.

Bevel the pipe on both ends to give the weld somewhere to go. If you weld it as is and the grind it smooth you will remove all the weld you just put on.