Charles Ruth might be right

[LabLuvR]

Regardless of how old I am.............never mind, I'd just hurt your feelings even further.

You can't hurt my feelings young man because you are wrong, dead wrong. How can that be? Simply because you were not around to witness what myself and other old timerz that hunted that upstate back then have. To make statements that I'm a dumbass is really the pot calling the kettle black.

[Relentlous]

And for the record, I hate pine trees and most logging practices..

I think I saw you at anglers a month or so ago. Our bow line was dragging and you gave us a heads up.

[PBiz]

I think I saw you at anglers a month or so ago. Our bow line was dragging and you gave us a heads up.

Yeah man, glad nothing tore up..

You shoulda spoke.

[ccleroy]

No pinnacle habitat stays the same dumbass, you like the turkeys have to evolve........turkeys shift for different reasons, be it habitat loss or changes in said woods as simple as a food plot in the middle of a 200 acre block will throw off turkeys from a surrounding tract. Do hardwoods hold turkeys? Damn right, do Pine plantations after the harvest of hardwoods in the same area hold birds once mature? You'd be a fool to think not. Is everything where you once hunted now a desert? There's nothing for turkeys to eat? Maybe I can get a box turkey for you and send it via first class so you can have one. I've hunted ALOT of different woods, and in different stages of growth, all have turkeys, all have had shifts where turkeys change patterns. Shut up Cromer

[Calibogue]

So according to Cromer, the eastern wild turkey population in the upstate of SC peaked in the 70s?
Please enlighten us oh wise one!

[Relentlous]

Yeah man, glad nothing tore up..

You shoulda spoke.

I just didn't want to be the guy who says " hey are you pbiZ off scducks" and for some reason it not be you.

[PBiz]

So did acorns sustain a turkey's diet for 12 months out of the year?

How did the population decline? Were the pine cones poisoning the turkeys?

I'll hang up and let your response further make you look like a blow hard, idiot..

[PBiz]

I just didn't want to be the guy who says " hey are you pbiZ off scducks" and for some reason it not be you.

I would have denied it, as I usually do..

[MKW]

Lots of bugs in pine plantations.

[ccleroy]

Lots of bugs in pine plantations.

Mike, you have no idea what you speak of.......

[MKW]

LOL. Nope, I have no idea.

For Lab... I spent 14 years in pine plantations EVERY DAY. I was the #2 in a company that was the world's largest producer of pine straw. I had more than 110 men bailing straw every day. Obviously, sine I managed all these crews, I was out there every day. The turkeys that I saw in VERY clean pine woods would astonish you. We sprayed 1000s of gallons of RoundUp every year to insure that there was nothing but clean pine straw. I'm here to tell you the turkeys loved it. It may not be ideal for them, but they would scratch for bugs all day long.

[ccleroy]

Say it ain't so Joe!!!

[ccleroy]

Don't look now, it's a pine tree #banthepine

[Whackumstackum]

Are lab and cottontop kin folk?

[fro]

Im old enough and from the upstate. Your argument doesn't hold water. Hell no one ever saw a turkey much less hunted until late 80's. That's when the evil monoculture boomed...

[LabLuvR]

Fro, I guess I never met Wayne Bailey in Blair back then either. And turks were very common in the 70's did you live in downtown Greenville or sumthin?

Leroy,
You are being beyond stupid and showing a lot of ignorance. Again, did you or did you not grow up in the upstate in the 70's hunting turkeys? The answer is a resounding no. Turkey are also seen in subdivisions as well dumbass, as prevalent as pine plantations are it seems logical the you would see them there.

Managed pine plantations which are burnt and planted are one thing. However, this was not the case in the upstate back then and still is not compared to the lowcountry.

I do hope you are just being argumentative for the hell of it, if not, you need to get your head out yo ass bubbaaaaaa.

[fro]

Im old enough and from the upstate. No one ever hardly saw a Turkey much less hunted them till the late 80's. About the time the evil monoculture boomed as I recollect. The 90's was fun real fun. Shit died. Turkeys and truck loads of deers

[LabLuvR]

You ain't quite old enough then bigdawg. I assure you turkeys were being hunted in the mid 70's, so where deerzzz.

[ccleroy]

Cromer, if you want to use the excuse that pine trees are the reason you lack at killing turkeys by all means go right ahead and use it.......it works for you

[LabLuvR]

No excuse I kill turks, could kill a lot more if it weren't for unmanaged pine plantations and yotes.