boykin

[LabLuvR]

She has a better nose, has a better prey drive and will go places most labs will not go.

Surely you are joking. I have a lot of respect for Boykins, but your thought process above is just about stupid.

[riverrat8991]

Jesus boy asked just a simple opinion and a bunch of people act like kids and argue.

[Sportin' Woodies]

Mods better move this to the retriever forum. It will be the manliest thread in there.

[Simple Man]

Good idear.

[FEETDOWN]

Buncha damn kweers. This is what you need.......



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[HuntinCosta]

Buncha damn kweers. This is what you need.......



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Beautiful Chesapeake, Is that fescue?

[bayou pirate]

You think labs aren't fast and can't retrieve a swan? I've seen a lot of Chessies, and no doubt some were great retrievers, but there's a reason most duck dogs are labs. I'm not bashing Chessies by any means because I have seen some great ones.

You know I've never given much thought to the speed of a Labrador retriever. I'm sure some are quite speedy. Of course I'm sure someone has put a clock to one, just not me. All I know for sure is that I've always heard how fast some guys lab was in a rice field only to find that a Boykin was faster. But what does faster get you? .......... Besides lunch if your Boykin wins.

Now I guess a rice field might not be the most difficult terrain. It's not a dove field but I didn't choose it either.

[buckfarmer]

You know I've never given much thought to the speed of a Labrador retriever. I'm sure some are quite speedy. Of course I'm sure someone has put a clock to one, just not me. All I know for sure is that I've always heard how fast some guys lab was in a rice field only to find that a Boykin was faster. But what does faster get you? .......... Besides lunch if your Boykin wins.

Now I guess a rice field might not be the most difficult terrain. It's not a dove field but I didn't choose it either.

Yes, Boykins appear fast because they are spastic, but go watch any hunt test, and you'll see how relatively slow they are. Haven't put a watch to it, but boykins take a LOT longer to pick up three marks (on land, water, rice field, dove field, any field) than a lab.

[buckfarmer]

She has a better nose, has a better prey drive and will go places most labs will not go.

Surely you are joking. I have a lot of respect for Boykins, but your thought process above is just about stupid.

Yep. That's crazy talk

[bayou pirate]

Yes, Boykins appear fast because they are spastic, but go watch any hunt test, and you'll see how relatively slow they are. Haven't put a watch to it, but boykins take a LOT longer to pick up three marks (on land, water, rice field, dove field, any field) than a lab.

Well I'll take spastic over lethargic on most days. As to dog games the HRC events I've seen and or participated in its difficult for me to see how labs are quicker when on average they require more handling a LOT more to complete their runs.

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Beautiful Chesapeake, Is that fescue?

I'll cut you.

And no, that's 'Muda. But if you need some fescue, I've got 10 acres of it in Ehrhardt.


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[buckfarmer]

Well I'll take spastic over lethargic on most days. As to dog games the HRC events I've seen and or participated in its difficult for me to see how labs are quicker when on average they require more handling a LOT more to complete their runs.

So you now think Boykins handle better and labs are lethargic? Out of the many Master and Finished tests I've been to, I have somehow missed the fast Boykins that handle well. Here's the truth: Boykins are are slow and they don't handle well on average. On the other hand, they shed less and are great in a boat if you hunt out of small canoes. Oh yeah, they're good at dove hunting too!

[FEETDOWN]

Well I'll take spastic over lethargic on most days. As to dog games the HRC events I've seen and or participated in its difficult for me to see how labs are quicker when on average they require more handling a LOT more to complete their runs.

I'll preface this by saying that this is not a slam on boykins, as I have somewhat of a "hater" reputation among the LBD people, but the statement above is absolute and utter horseshit.


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[Tha Dick]

[Tha Dick]

Well I'll take spastic over lethargic on most days. As to dog games the HRC events I've seen and or participated in its difficult for me to see how labs are quicker when on average they require more handling a LOT more to complete their runs.

Y'all are cracking me up!!!!

[buckfarmer]

I'll preface this by saying that this is not a slam on boykins, as I have somewhat of a "hater" reputation among the LBD people, but the statement above is absolute and utter horseshit.


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I was trying to be nice about it, but this is an accurate statement. I realize Bayou may live Boykins, but let's be realistic here! Anyone who has seen labs and Boykins run the same setups can tell you Boykins are significantly slower, and don't handle better than labs. Based upon Bayou's observations, I guess he hasn't seen many HRC or AKC tests, or at least not many higher level ones.

[803]

I don't get the lab vs Boykin comparisons. They were bred for different traits. My lab was very easy to train and does well in big water , but is a terrible dove dog during the peak dove season. Boykins don't seem to be quite as easy to train nor to please in general , but are fully capable to being just as good with the average trainer and they are much better with quail and doves. Boykins " won't rock the boat" . It could just be the ones I am familiar with, but Boykins seem to be much more aggressive towards other dogs and not as by-the-side as labs. It is all preference. I love my lab, but grew up with boykins. An "ideal" gun dog is in the eye of the beholder. There is not standard for all hunters. For me it just happens to be small (65lbs) labs are ideal for my sitatuion.


Though for someone new to dog training, labs are much easier.

[FEETDOWN]

I don't get the lab vs Boykin comparisons. They were bred for different traits. My lab was very easy to train and does well in big water , but is a terrible dove dog during the peak dove season. Boykins don't seem to be quite as easy to train nor to please in general , but are fully capable to being just as good with the average trainer and they are much better with quail and doves. Boykins " won't rock the boat" It is all preference. I love my lab, but grew up with boykins. An "ideal" gun dog is in the eye of the beholder. There is not standard for all hunters.

Very, very well said....



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[E. Taylor]

I don't get the lab vs Boykin comparisons. They were bred for different traits. My lab was very easy to train and does well in big water , but is a terrible dove dog during the peak dove season. Boykins don't seem to be quite as easy to train nor to please in general , but are fully capable to being just as good with the average trainer and they are much better with quail and doves. Boykins " won't rock the boat" . It could just be the ones I am familiar with, but Boykins seem to be much more aggressive towards other dogs and not as by-the-side as labs. It is all preference. I love my lab, but grew up with boykins. An "ideal" gun dog is in the eye of the beholder. There is not standard for all hunters. For me it just happens to be small (65lbs) labs are ideal for my sitatuion.


Though for someone new to dog training, labs are much easier.

Right on the money !!!!!! I have owned all three. But if I could only have one dog for all my hunting, a 65 pound chocolate lab would be my choice. My son has one now. Darn good dog.

[benman]

2th's Boykin is way better at catching rats than my lab.